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items from childhood/family problems	Katie	Thursday, February 26, 2009
Question: I have another question. I have a Curious George Doll from my childhood that I kept for sentimental value that gives off a strange vibe sometimes. I thought it was my imagination, but I also had an old Cabbage Patch Kid where all this negative energy seemed to be localized in my room. I had kept mine and my sister's, and my doll emanated such creepy vibes that I wouldn't go near it. The Curious George Doll sometimes gives off a flicker of these creepy vibes. Should I get rid of these two items as well as my scarves? They aren't associated with anything sinful. Another thing is that I had a deck of tarot cards about ten years ago and I was shuffling around and gave them to my mother to do a reading for me. She is completely ignorant of the tarot deck and simply went along with it in a half-hearted way. Do you think she was negatively affected by this or committed any sins? Finally, my sister started doing yoga and I told her to stop, but she does it anyway. Since she started, she doesn't go to church every Sunday anymore and sometimes walks out early after receiving communion. I feel like my involvement with the occult has dragged my whole family down and now nobody cares. I don't even think my brother ever goes to church anymore at all. My life is filled with people like this and I somehow feel responsible even though I am trying to get my act together. It all started in high school. My friends were into the tarot and gave me strange gifts like pentagram windchimes. My best friend at school masses would never go to communion and refused to go to confession on retreats. So basically, all this occult garbage seems to be everywhere.
Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM Dear Katie: Yes, occult and occulitic philosophy, paganism, witchcraft and such are everywhere. We cannot get away from it unless we move to a mountain cave to live by ourselves. As for as the dolls are concerned, if you feel that there is some attachment to them, then destroy them. See our article on Procedure to Destroy Occultic and Cursed Objects. Tarot Cards are a device for divination and are gravely sinful to use. Is it possible that your mother was harmed even though she did not know what she was doing? It is possible but not a given. As for the yoga, perhaps your sister ought to consider the following: The problem is that according to yoga masters and former yoga masters who have converted to Christianity have stated that it is impossible to remove the Hinduism from yoga even if you so not practice any Hindu spirituality in doing it. The very movements and postures themselves are designed to create states of consciousness that a Catholic should not be messing with. Since these postures are inherently tied to the Hindu spirituality we take a risk in practicing them. Especially since using yoga postures are utterly unnecessary and other exercises can do what it needed, why take the risk? Here is a warning from none other than Carl Jung, who's psychology was intertwined with the occult: "One often hears and reads about the dangers of Yoga, particularly of the ill-reputed Kundalini Yoga. The deliberately induced psychotic state, which in certain unstable individuals might easily lead to a real psychosis, is a danger that needs to be taken very seriously indeed. These things really are dangerous and ought not to be meddled with in our typically Western way. It is a meddling with Fate, which strikes at the very roots of human existence and can let loose a flood of sufferings of which no sane person ever dreamed. These sufferings correspond to the hellish torments of the chönyid state..." --C. G. Jung, Introduction to The Tibetan book of the Dead I have had a couple of deliverance clients who have been harmed by the "Kundalini Awakening". I think anyone interested in Yoga ought to read an article by Subhas R. Tiwari, a professor at the Hindu University of America. He is a graduate of the famed Bihar Yoga Bharati University with a master's degree in yoga philosophy. The article is Yoga Renamed Is Still Hindu Also of interest are the words in an Open Letter to Evangelicals about Hindu evangelization: Hindus everywhere are becoming stronger and more assertive: ... 2) The West is clearly open to the Hindu message, ready to hear about yoga, meditation, mysticism, healing and the ancient ways. Such "products" were too sophisticated for public consumption 30 years ago, but today they're the hottest item on the shelf. Not a small part of this phenomenon is related, indirectly, to the coming of age of the New Age movement... Consider these words a warning: A small army of yoga missionaries - hatha, raja, siddha and kundalini - beautifully trained in the last 10 years, is about to set upon the western world. They may not call themselves Hindu, but Hindus know where yoga came from and where it goes. This letter was written in 1991. Since then the "missionaries" have already set upon us and in large part have converted many, even those in the Church. The Hindu writer made a factual error, however, is saying the Vatican permitted the practice of yoga. He misinterpreted the document. A Christian reflection on the “New Age” mentions yoga negatively as a list of practices inconsistent with Christianity. As for you being responsible, that responsibility only extends to whatever you may have done to influence others badly. What those people do now is their responsibility. They have free will. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Thursday, February 26, 2009

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I have another question. I have a Curious George Doll from my childhood that I kept for sentimental value that gives off a strange vibe sometimes. I thought it was my imagination, but I also had an old Cabbage Patch Kid where all this negative energy seemed to be localized in my room. I had kept mine and my sister's, and my doll emanated such creepy vibes that I wouldn't go near it. The Curious George Doll sometimes gives off a flicker of these creepy vibes. Should I get rid of these two items as well as my scarves? They aren't associated with anything sinful.

Another thing is that I had a deck of tarot cards about ten years ago and I was shuffling around and gave them to my mother to do a reading for me. She is completely ignorant of the tarot deck and simply went along with it in a half-hearted way. Do you think she was negatively affected by this or committed any sins?

Finally, my sister started doing yoga and I told her to stop, but she does it anyway. Since she started, she doesn't go to church every Sunday anymore and sometimes walks out early after receiving communion. I feel like my involvement with the occult has dragged my whole family down and now nobody cares. I don't even think my brother ever goes to church anymore at all.

My life is filled with people like this and I somehow feel responsible even though I am trying to get my act together. It all started in high school. My friends were into the tarot and gave me strange gifts like pentagram windchimes. My best friend at school masses would never go to communion and refused to go to confession on retreats. So basically, all this occult garbage seems to be everywhere.

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Katie:

Yes, occult and occulitic philosophy, paganism, witchcraft and such are everywhere. We cannot get away from it unless we move to a mountain cave to live by ourselves.

As for as the dolls are concerned, if you feel that there is some attachment to them, then destroy them. See our article on Procedure to Destroy Occultic and Cursed Objects.

Tarot Cards are a device for divination and are gravely sinful to use. Is it possible that your mother was harmed even though she did not know what she was doing? It is possible but not a given.

As for the yoga, perhaps your sister ought to consider the following:

The problem is that according to yoga masters and former yoga masters who have converted to Christianity have stated that it is impossible to remove the Hinduism from yoga even if you so not practice any Hindu spirituality in doing it.

The very movements and postures themselves are designed to create states of consciousness that a Catholic should not be messing with. Since these postures are inherently tied to the Hindu spirituality we take a risk in practicing them.

Especially since using yoga postures are utterly unnecessary and other exercises can do what it needed, why take the risk?

Here is a warning from none other than Carl Jung, who's psychology was intertwined with the occult:

"One often hears and reads about the dangers of Yoga, particularly of the ill-reputed Kundalini Yoga. The deliberately induced psychotic state, which in certain unstable individuals might easily lead to a real psychosis, is a danger that needs to be taken very seriously indeed. These things really are dangerous and ought not to be meddled with in our typically Western way. It is a meddling with Fate, which strikes at the very roots of human existence and can let loose a flood of sufferings of which no sane person ever dreamed. These sufferings correspond to the hellish torments of the chönyid state..."
--C. G. Jung, Introduction to The Tibetan book of the Dead

I have had a couple of deliverance clients who have been harmed by the "Kundalini Awakening".

I think anyone interested in Yoga ought to read an article by Subhas R. Tiwari, a professor at the Hindu University of America. He is a graduate of the famed Bihar Yoga Bharati University with a master's degree in yoga philosophy.

The article is Yoga Renamed Is Still Hindu

Also of interest are the words in an Open Letter to Evangelicals about Hindu evangelization:

Hindus everywhere are becoming stronger and more assertive: ... 2) The West is clearly open to the Hindu message, ready to hear about yoga, meditation, mysticism, healing and the ancient ways. Such "products" were too sophisticated for public consumption 30 years ago, but today they're the hottest item on the shelf. Not a small part of this phenomenon is related, indirectly, to the coming of age of the New Age movement...

Consider these words a warning:

A small army of yoga missionaries - hatha, raja, siddha and kundalini - beautifully trained in the last 10 years, is about to set upon the western world. They may not call themselves Hindu, but Hindus know where yoga came from and where it goes.

This letter was written in 1991. Since then the "missionaries" have already set upon us and in large part have converted many, even those in the Church.

The Hindu writer made a factual error, however, is saying the Vatican permitted the practice of yoga. He misinterpreted the document. A Christian reflection on the “New Age” mentions yoga negatively as a list of practices inconsistent with Christianity.

As for you being responsible, that responsibility only extends to whatever you may have done to influence others badly. What those people do now is their responsibility. They have free will.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.