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Demonic Encounters, Stopped But Now Back	Stephen	Saturday, December 27, 2008
Question: Br. Ignatius, I apologize for this being over the 2,000 character limit but this is of the utmost importance and I felt it necessary to give as much detail as possible in this matter. I thank you for the work that you do. You gave me valuable information over this summer when I realized that I was experiencing clear demonic oppression. I must tell you that things got better to a point, though much has happened since then. After reading what I have to say here, I would appreciate any suggestion that you might have. I moved from South Carolina to Shawnee, Oklahoma, in August of this year to begin classes at Oklahoma Baptist University. I transferred in as a junior. I went there to be in a strong Christian environment and grow in my faith and understanding of the teachings of Christ. Things were going very well for me in that regard, I was really much more secure in my faith and more at peace than I had been in the past. The demonic involvement had really just about gone away entirely... Then one night, after a Bible study with several friends on campus, I was invited by someone I had just met to go to a 'haunted' house on the edge of town. Two of my friends begged me not to go but I honestly just thought that it was a joke, and that if it were anything serious God would protect me from it and things would be fine. I couldn't have been more wrong. I went in expecting some idiot in the back to be making creepy noises and scaring me with a flashlight or something... I saw a black figure, maybe six feet tall and shaped like a man, in one corner of a room on the second floor of this house (abandoned for several years, partially burned, lots of damage). It stood there watching me and all of a sudden I felt surrounded by an overwhelming presence. I was more afraid than I had ever been in my 20 years up to that point. We left the house shortly after. Upon returning to my room on campus, the presence had not left me. I thought that surely once I got to campus, to a place full of God's people, that I would be left alone. Not true. For five days I had no sleep. I was either back at that house, with other friends, trying to figure out what was going on (and encountering even more terrifying things), or I was sitting in bed shaking as I read my Bible and prayed for the presence to leave me. A friend of mine who entered the house with me, in broad daylight, told me after leaving that she felt 'something in her head' telling her to kill herself, as soon as she had entered the house. As we were getting in her car to leave the house, we both looked up and saw the same figure of the same 'man' watching us from a second story window. She later saw the same figure, this time with red eyes, at various locations on campus. Finally I reached the breaking point and called a 'paranormal investigations group' from Edmond, Oklahoma. They came to the house with me (the guy who introduced me to the house also came) and tried to speak to whatever was there... After the first night I went to the house I had already concluded that it was demonic in nature but I couldn't resist going back, I was literally being drawn back day after day... Needless to say this 'team' did no good. Over the next two weeks, I continued to feel a constant attack by the demon(s). At times I felt more than one presence, other times just one. Often the names Azazel and Pazuzu would pop into my mind but I'm thinking that's because of things I had seen on TV or such. This attack grew worse, manifesting itself in suicidal and even homicidal thoughts, the likes of which I had never had before. Finally after two weeks of suffering this (two weeks after first visiting this house) I prayed to the demons directly, offering to bring more people to the house and give them their souls, if they would leave me alone. This failed. After two days, I was unable to bring anyone else to the house (they were all afraid, for good reason), and I was also unable to resist the suicidal thoughts. I overdosed on Prozac (apparently not the most effective thing), but ended up being fine... I was dismissed from the university four days later. During this ordeal, I had spoken with the campus minister and begged him for help, within just a few days of when it all started. He informed me that OBU was "the last place that a demon would want to be". I also had visited the local Catholic church and spoken with a Priest, who prayed over me and sprinkled me with holy water. This gave me great relief and for two full days the demonic attacks stopped. They only returned when I came in contact with Charles, the person who first took me to that house. All of that ended as soon as I left Shawnee after I was kicked out of college. I chose a church in Oklahoma City and have attended there ever since... I am currently in South Carolina visiting my parents. Now, just about three months from when I first encountered this house, I have had recurring visions of the house (1,000 miles from where I'm sitting right now) and again have the same feeling that I am being watched by a demon and that I am in some kind of danger. I have prayed for God's protection several times and I have commanded the demon to leave me alone in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, making sure that I have not spoken in my own name but in that of the Trinity. I have had no discussions beyond that. I hear whispering now. I can't make out what's being said. But this is different because I have NEVER heard whispering before... In the past I heard vague whispers or a few words here and there, in my head... Thoughts that weren't my own... But I hear this with my ears, which is completely new. Please. I am completely uncertain of what to do. I have complete faith in God that He will defend me and I have complete faith in my salvation. But all my prayer and all my waiting patiently for God to step in and save the day has done nothing. The attacks continue. This is a pattern, clearly. It comes around every so often, bothers me for a few weeks, and leaves for a while before coming back stronger than before. Also, I mean to begin RCIA as soon as I begin classes at my new college next month. I had intended to begin in Shawnee before all this demon business came around... What does this mean? I need a real, solid answer. How do I stop this from happening again? Also, please pray for my friend Charles. He is the one who took me to the house. I am convinced that he is on the verge of being possessed. I have seen him so overpowered that he could not move from his bed. He has said many times that something was 'in his head' and that it 'wasn't him doing things'. I fear for his safety.
Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM Dear Stephen: We will certainly be in prayer for you and for Charles and all those who have been seduced by the devil through him. Also, welcome to the Church. I am glad to hear that you plan on entering RCIA. I am sorry, though, but must tell you that God does not step in and fix everything. God cannot protect you against your own stupidity. You have free will and God never intrudes upon that free will. What you have described here is a series of very bad decisions. You have opened the door all by yourself and are now suffering the consequences. What you need to do now is to begin a process of deliverance. I would advise that you follow the Seven Steps for Self-Deliverance linked below and also use appropriate prayers in our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog also linked below. But, the foundation of any deliverance is built with living the Christ-life. Be the best Christian you can be -- daily prayer, devotion, and abandonment to God. As one old Baptist preacher once said, "The best way to keep the devil out, is to keep Jesus in." You must persevere in the faith and in the deliverance process. Normally deliverance does not happen over-night, though it can be that fast. Most often deliverance does not come until all impediments that block deliverance or attract demons are removed. There are several reasons why deliverance does not happen right away that I outlined in another post. I'll repeat that here: 1) there may be hooks remaining in our lives that demons can use as an excuse to hang on to our lives. Until those hooks are removed deliverance may not be complete. 2) there are things that we need to learn about ourselves and/or about God and until will learn those things deliverance may not be complete. 3) God knows that it is in the best interest of the person to remain demonized to some level for some reason (e.g. God did not deliver St. Paul and used the demonic harassment St. Paul was experiencing as a way to keep him humble [2 Cor 12:7-10]). 4) There can be problems of mental illness or personality disorders that make the person vulnerable to continued demonization. Those issues may have to be stabilized before deliverance is fully possible. 5) God may choose some people to be "suffering souls". A person who chronically suffers does not mean one is a suffering soul. A suffering soul is specially called by God to suffer in holiness and sanctity for the sake of others. This is rare. 6) any number of other reasons that only God knows. The bottomline is that you have created these problems and are now suffering the consequences. To resolve this and to find freedom will take a great deal of work and resolve on your part to dedicate yourself to Christ, abandon yourself to Christ, make prayers and devotions, and work the process of deliverance in prayer. Persevere through all this and freedom will then be possible. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Demonic Encounters, Stopped But Now Back

Stephen

Saturday, December 27, 2008

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Br. Ignatius,

I apologize for this being over the 2,000 character limit but this is of the utmost importance and I felt it necessary to give as much detail as possible in this matter.

I thank you for the work that you do. You gave me valuable information over this summer when I realized that I was experiencing clear demonic oppression. I must tell you that things got better to a point, though much has happened since then. After reading what I have to say here, I would appreciate any suggestion that you might have.

I moved from South Carolina to Shawnee, Oklahoma, in August of this year to begin classes at Oklahoma Baptist University. I transferred in as a junior. I went there to be in a strong Christian environment and grow in my faith and understanding of the teachings of Christ. Things were going very well for me in that regard, I was really much more secure in my faith and more at peace than I had been in the past. The demonic involvement had really just about gone away entirely...

Then one night, after a Bible study with several friends on campus, I was invited by someone I had just met to go to a 'haunted' house on the edge of town. Two of my friends begged me not to go but I honestly just thought that it was a joke, and that if it were anything serious God would protect me from it and things would be fine. I couldn't have been more wrong. I went in expecting some idiot in the back to be making creepy noises and scaring me with a flashlight or something...

I saw a black figure, maybe six feet tall and shaped like a man, in one corner of a room on the second floor of this house (abandoned for several years, partially burned, lots of damage). It stood there watching me and all of a sudden I felt surrounded by an overwhelming presence. I was more afraid than I had ever been in my 20 years up to that point. We left the house shortly after.

Upon returning to my room on campus, the presence had not left me. I thought that surely once I got to campus, to a place full of God's people, that I would be left alone. Not true. For five days I had no sleep. I was either back at that house, with other friends, trying to figure out what was going on (and encountering even more terrifying things), or I was sitting in bed shaking as I read my Bible and prayed for the presence to leave me.

A friend of mine who entered the house with me, in broad daylight, told me after leaving that she felt 'something in her head' telling her to kill herself, as soon as she had entered the house. As we were getting in her car to leave the house, we both looked up and saw the same figure of the same 'man' watching us from a second story window. She later saw the same figure, this time with red eyes, at various locations on campus.

Finally I reached the breaking point and called a 'paranormal investigations group' from Edmond, Oklahoma. They came to the house with me (the guy who introduced me to the house also came) and tried to speak to whatever was there... After the first night I went to the house I had already concluded that it was demonic in nature but I couldn't resist going back, I was literally being drawn back day after day... Needless to say this 'team' did no good.

Over the next two weeks, I continued to feel a constant attack by the demon(s). At times I felt more than one presence, other times just one. Often the names Azazel and Pazuzu would pop into my mind but I'm thinking that's because of things I had seen on TV or such. This attack grew worse, manifesting itself in suicidal and even homicidal thoughts, the likes of which I had never had before.

Finally after two weeks of suffering this (two weeks after first visiting this house) I prayed to the demons directly, offering to bring more people to the house and give them their souls, if they would leave me alone. This failed. After two days, I was unable to bring anyone else to the house (they were all afraid, for good reason), and I was also unable to resist the suicidal thoughts. I overdosed on Prozac (apparently not the most effective thing), but ended up being fine...

I was dismissed from the university four days later. During this ordeal, I had spoken with the campus minister and begged him for help, within just a few days of when it all started. He informed me that OBU was "the last place that a demon would want to be". I also had visited the local Catholic church and spoken with a Priest, who prayed over me and sprinkled me with holy water. This gave me great relief and for two full days the demonic attacks stopped. They only returned when I came in contact with Charles, the person who first took me to that house.

All of that ended as soon as I left Shawnee after I was kicked out of college. I chose a church in Oklahoma City and have attended there ever since... I am currently in South Carolina visiting my parents.

Now, just about three months from when I first encountered this house, I have had recurring visions of the house (1,000 miles from where I'm sitting right now) and again have the same feeling that I am being watched by a demon and that I am in some kind of danger. I have prayed for God's protection several times and I have commanded the demon to leave me alone in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, making sure that I have not spoken in my own name but in that of the Trinity. I have had no discussions beyond that.

I hear whispering now. I can't make out what's being said. But this is different because I have NEVER heard whispering before... In the past I heard vague whispers or a few words here and there, in my head... Thoughts that weren't my own... But I hear this with my ears, which is completely new.

Please. I am completely uncertain of what to do. I have complete faith in God that He will defend me and I have complete faith in my salvation. But all my prayer and all my waiting patiently for God to step in and save the day has done nothing. The attacks continue. This is a pattern, clearly. It comes around every so often, bothers me for a few weeks, and leaves for a while before coming back stronger than before. Also, I mean to begin RCIA as soon as I begin classes at my new college next month. I had intended to begin in Shawnee before all this demon business came around...

What does this mean? I need a real, solid answer. How do I stop this from happening again?

Also, please pray for my friend Charles. He is the one who took me to the house. I am convinced that he is on the verge of being possessed. I have seen him so overpowered that he could not move from his bed. He has said many times that something was 'in his head' and that it 'wasn't him doing things'. I fear for his safety.

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Stephen:

We will certainly be in prayer for you and for Charles and all those who have been seduced by the devil through him.

Also, welcome to the Church. I am glad to hear that you plan on entering RCIA.

I am sorry, though, but must tell you that God does not step in and fix everything. God cannot protect you against your own stupidity. You have free will and God never intrudes upon that free will. What you have described here is a series of very bad decisions. You have opened the door all by yourself and are now suffering the consequences.

What you need to do now is to begin a process of deliverance. I would advise that you follow the Seven Steps for Self-Deliverance linked below and also use appropriate prayers in our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog also linked below.

But, the foundation of any deliverance is built with living the Christ-life. Be the best Christian you can be -- daily prayer, devotion, and abandonment to God. As one old Baptist preacher once said, "The best way to keep the devil out, is to keep Jesus in."

You must persevere in the faith and in the deliverance process. Normally deliverance does not happen over-night, though it can be that fast.

Most often deliverance does not come until all impediments that block deliverance or attract demons are removed. There are several reasons why deliverance does not happen right away that I outlined in another post. I'll repeat that here:

1) there may be hooks remaining in our lives that demons can use as an excuse to hang on to our lives. Until those hooks are removed deliverance may not be complete.
2) there are things that we need to learn about ourselves and/or about God and until will learn those things deliverance may not be complete.
3) God knows that it is in the best interest of the person to remain demonized to some level for some reason (e.g. God did not deliver St. Paul and used the demonic harassment St. Paul was experiencing as a way to keep him humble [2 Cor 12:7-10]).
4) There can be problems of mental illness or personality disorders that make the person vulnerable to continued demonization. Those issues may have to be stabilized before deliverance is fully possible.
5) God may choose some people to be "suffering souls". A person who chronically suffers does not mean one is a suffering soul. A suffering soul is specially called by God to suffer in holiness and sanctity for the sake of others. This is rare.
6) any number of other reasons that only God knows.

The bottomline is that you have created these problems and are now suffering the consequences. To resolve this and to find freedom will take a great deal of work and resolve on your part to dedicate yourself to Christ, abandon yourself to Christ, make prayers and devotions, and work the process of deliverance in prayer. Persevere through all this and freedom will then be possible.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.