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Former OBAMA thread partia Sunday, October 26, 2008

Question:

HOw do u consider yourself a Godly and just person when you talk about Obama negatively and even Clinton? You sound very judgemental.

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Partia:

Your question is very curious. You are judging me as judgmental. How judgmental of you! If you truly believe in not judging people then you should not have judged me.

Jesus never said that we are not to judge. He said that we are not to judge hypocritically or judge people's state of soul (whether or not they are going to hell).

We are obviously to make judgments about behavior, ideas, philosophies, points-of-view. Everyone makes judgments of this sort. Anyone who says they don't is either delusional, a fool, or a liar.

I speak negatively about Hitler because what Hitler believed and did was evil. Does that make me judgmental?

We have an obligation to expose sin and to expose evil no matter who proposes it. In fact, if we do not expose sin and evil we are an accomplice to it. The policies and ideas of Obama are some of the most evil of any presidential candidate in the history of the United States.

Obama proposes unfettered and unrestricted abortion from conception to birth. He is in favor of infanticide in that he voted against legislation that would have made illegal the evil practice of taking babies who survive abortion and placing them in a closet or some other place to die.

Obama reinterprets the Bible to justify homosexual marriage and is committed to make homosexual marriage the law of the land. This too is an evil.

No Christian can vote for this man and claim to be Christian when he supports such abject evil that is an abomination before God.

This is not being "judgmental" this is making a sound judgment based upon the teachings of God as revealed in the Bible. The Bible itself says we are to judge according to the teachings of the Bible. St. Paul tells us to judge sinners.

I make no judgments about Obama's soul. His soul is in God's hands. But we can and should make judgments about his (and all candidates') ideas, philosophies, and policies.

In fact, my dear, if you are voting in the election, you are making a judgment in favor of the one you vote for and against the person you are not voting for. Is it judgmental to vote?

I suggest you read the essay, "Three Secret Strategies of Satan". The idea that we are never to judge is actually an idea of Satan's because God never teaches that.

Here is an excerpt:

Our model in this tough love is no less that Jesus Himself (who, contrary to popular opinion was not a 60’s flower child with flowers in his hair repeating a mantra of peace and love). Jesus preached a demanding love, a love so demanding that in some cases it would rip apart families:

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law – a man's enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me."—Matthew 10:34-38

Truth cannot be compromised—even if it makes enemies of our relatives. Some people will not accept the truth and will hate those who preach it. Truth demands judgment; that is, truth demands we see things truthfully and to call things what they are. If we see sin or error, we must call it for what it is.

The Bible is filled with passages talking about how we are to judge others. Before listing some of those, first let us look at the kind of judgment we are not to do.

The most famous of the several "do not judge" passages are found at Matthew 7:1-3

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgement you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own…"

In this passage we see three kinds of judgment we are not to do:

  1. Judgment of Condemnation:

    Judgment in this passage is referring to condemning ("pronouncing" judgment on a person’s soul). We are not the "Judge" to pronounce condemnation on anyone (not even ourselves). Only God can do that. The Church, for example, never pronounces "anyone" in hell. And even in the assessment of a person declared a saint, it is done by special dispensation granted to the Church by her authority of the "keys". But even with this authority, we need to note that it is never applied to judging a person in hell. If the Church, who has the authority of the keys will not judge a person to condemnation, how can we? We are never to judge a person’s state of soul. Jesus tells us that we will receive ourselves the judgment of soul that we place on others if we attempt this usurpation of God’s sovereignty.

  2. Judgment from Double–Standards:

    When we use double–standards for judgment, apply one measure to others and a different measure to ourselves we commit a sin. Jesus says that we will not get by with that (a form of hypocrisy). The standards we apply to others will be applied to us as well.

  3. Judgment from Self-Righteousness:

    The last sentence of the passage quoted refers to seeing sins in others but not in oneself. This is self-righteousness (another form of hypocrisy).

In this passage, Jesus does not say that we cannot judge. He says that we are not to judge in the manner of presuming condemnation on another or to make judgments borne from hypocrisy (double-standard & self-righteousness).

In verse 5 Jesus continues: You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye."

Taking the speck out of our brother’s eye is not condemned in itself. Hypocritical judgment is what Jesus condemns.

We can immediately see this is the meaning of these passages by going on to the very next verse:

Do not give dogs what is holy; and do not throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and turn to attack you.

Dogs? Swine? How are we to know who is a dog or a swine? We cannot take Jesus’ advice, which is advice for self-protection (e.g. when Jesus said the swine will "turn to attack you"), if we do not judge a person, that is, to identify a person as a metaphorical "dog" or "swine."

Who are the dogs and swine? Verse 15 gives us one clue when it talks about false prophets who come in sheep’s clothing. Verse 21 Jesus talks about people calling to him, "Lord, Lord" yet some of these will not enter heaven. They will not enter heaven because despite their calling upon the name of the Lord, they are people who refuse to do God’s will.

Verse 26 tells us more about these people. They are people who do not just fail to follow God’s will, but who actively disobey the teachings of Jesus and thus they build their house on sand (and that includes disobeying the Church, who has been given authority to speak infallibly and definitively in Jesus’ name to the faithful—when the Church speaks, Jesus speaks).

Throughout Scripture we are given examples of these dogs and swine and are repeatedly told to shun them, to avoid them, and even to kick them out of our community as to give them up to Satan.

In Matthew 10:13-14 Jesus tells the disciples to shake the very dust off their clothes of any city that refuses to listen to them. That requires a judgment.

St. Paul in Titus 3:9-11 tells us to warn a heretic (divisive person) twice and then have nothing more to do with him because such a person is "perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned." We don’t condemn him, he condemns himself, but we do judge him to be divisive beyond tolerance because we tried to admonish him (judge his behavior and warn him of his sin) twice but he would not repent.

St. Paul commands us in 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 to not associate with people calling themselves Christians who are "guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or robber—not even to eat with such a one."

Then Paul actually says and confirms in black and white language in verse 12 without any shades of gray that we are to judge our fellow Christians (but interestingly to not to judge those outside of the church): "Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside."

We are our brother’s keeper and if we love, we will admonish a brother in sin or error.

St. Paul also tells us in 2 Timothy 3:1-9 that we are to avoid people who are "holding to a form of religion but denying the power of it" (e.g., liberals who strip our Church of its sacramental power). Others we are to avoid include those who are "Lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, inhuman, implacable, slanderers, profligates, fierce, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God…".

And finally, St. Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 that some people must be excommunicated—completely removed from fellowship and handed over to Satan. Paul specifically says, "I have already pronounced judgment in the name of the Lord Jesus on the man who has done such a thing… you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

This form of judgment (excommunication), by the way, is one reserved to the Church and is not a personal judgment exacted by the faithful.

Jesus, Himself, calls for this formal judgment on the part of the Church in Matthew 18:15-18.

As we have seen, the idea we are not to judge is a lie.

I would suggest, Partia, that you stop hypocritically judging those who are making proper judgments and instead conform yourself to God and His standards of morality and social responsibility.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary


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