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Possible encounter with a demon who calls himself Asmodeus	Davide	Monday, July 2, 2007
Question: Hello, I have a question about an experience I had once with an old friend who may have been posessed. I was much younger (and immature) at the time this happened, and I foolishly thought that I could excercise the demon by myself. I commanded it to leave in the name of Jesus Christ, and it laughed, and spoke in some language (Greek or Latin I think, since it called me "pater"), and said that I had no power to expell him from my friend, since it was God Himself who permitted him to be posessed. I continued to call on the name of Jesus, but the demon insisted ever more that God permitted him to be posessed, and thus no man can expell him. I asked in the name of Jesus Christ what his name was, and he said Asmodeus. After trying unsucessfully to expell them demon, I then did the only thing I could do, which was to command the demon to go back into hiding in my friend and allow him to act on his own accord. And so he did. After this event, I wanted to understand what happened, and why the demon claimed to have been permitted to posess this person. I did a little research on the name "Asmodeus", and NewAdvent.org notes that it was an Old Testament demon that God permitted to kill 7 men because they entered into marriage with unholy motives. "In fact, the permission given by God to the demon in this history seems to have as a motive to chasten man's lust and sanctify marriage." And if this isn't strange enough, it just so happened that my friend recently married a woman at the time of this event. So am I to believe that God permitted him to be posessed in order to purfiy him? And is it really true that no man can have power over a demon that God allows to posess with this purpose? Thank you for your help in this matter, -Davide
Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM Dear Davide: You already know this, but I am going to chew you out anyway for the sake of our readers. DO NOT EVER DO THIS AGAIN. Foolish is an understatement to the extreme. I cannot say this enough to our readers that this is serious business and a dangerous business to try to exorcise a demon. To try this when one is not trained to do it is like trying to do brain surgery on a person when you barely know First Aid. If one should come across a person they think may have a demonic problem, pray for them, but under no circumstances try to intervene or exorcise the demon. DO NOT talk to the demon, DO NOT COMMAND the demon. In the Old Testament story of God allowing the demon Asmodeus to kill these seven men there is no indication that the demon possessed them; rather they killed the men. God simply allowed the demon to serve His will and His judgment of these men who desired to defile the sanctify of marriage. This story is not about purifying, it is about PROTECTING purity. If your friend is truly possessed by a demon, Asmodeus or any other demon, it is not likely God would have allowed it to purify him. How does one purify by engulfing a person in filth? The Holy Spirit purifies, not a demon. Can God teach this person as a result of the possession? Certainly. God tells us that all things work together for good to those who love God. Thus, the bad thing, the lemon -- possession -- can be made into sweet lemonade if the man will allow God to make something good from it. Even in evil, God may be ultimately glorified. If your friend is possessed there is some other reason for it. He needs to come forward and ask for help. He must want to be delivered for him to be delivered. As for God allowing the possession, this is a trick the demon played on you. God does permit possession. It is part of what is called God's Permissive Will. All things come under God's Permissive Will. God's Particular Will, however, relates to God specifically giving permission in a direct way. Is it possible that God may specifically tell a demon, "You may possess this person" for some reason. I do not think so. God does not perpetrate evil upon people. He may allow evil to happen, but He does not perpetrate it. For example with the story of Job, Satan was not allowed to possess, only allowed to harass and harm (but not kill) Job, and this was only for a specific reason. Does God allow the possession? Yes, the demon told the truth there. Does that mean that we have no power to exorcise the possessed person? No, the demon lied. The demon was giving you a half-truth. This is just one example as to why a non-trained person should not do these things; it is too easy to fall for such tricks. Therefore, is it possible for him to be free? Yes. Remember, demons are expert liars. You cannot trust anything they say. God has given the Church the faculty of exorcism and when the Church performs a solemn exorcism, it is in the name of and under the authority of the Church given to her by God Himself. It is God speaking, when the Church speaks to a demon in a solemn exorcism to leave a person. Bottomline: I do not believe your friend was possessed in order to purify him. God does not perpetrate evil. God, however, may have allowed your friend to suffer in this way due to the natural consequences of the man's actions so that we will come to his senses. But for God to say to demon, "Go possess him", no, I do not think God works that way. Pray that your friend will seek help from the Church or a professional deliverance counselor. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Possible encounter with a demon who calls himself Asmodeus

Davide

Monday, July 2, 2007

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Hello,
I have a question about an experience I had once with an old friend who may have been posessed. I was much younger (and immature) at the time this happened, and I foolishly thought that I could excercise the demon by myself.

I commanded it to leave in the name of Jesus Christ, and it laughed, and spoke in some language (Greek or Latin I think, since it called me "pater"), and said that I had no power to expell him from my friend, since it was God Himself who permitted him to be posessed. I continued to call on the name of Jesus, but the demon insisted ever more that God permitted him to be posessed, and thus no man can expell him.

I asked in the name of Jesus Christ what his name was, and he said Asmodeus. After trying unsucessfully to expell them demon, I then did the only thing I could do, which was to command the demon to go back into hiding in my friend and allow him to act on his own accord. And so he did.

After this event, I wanted to understand what happened, and why the demon claimed to have been permitted to posess this person. I did a little research on the name "Asmodeus", and NewAdvent.org notes that it was an Old Testament demon that God permitted to kill 7 men because they entered into marriage with unholy motives. "In fact, the permission given by God to the demon in this history seems to have as a motive to chasten man's lust and sanctify marriage."

And if this isn't strange enough, it just so happened that my friend recently married a woman at the time of this event.

So am I to believe that God permitted him to be posessed in order to purfiy him? And is it really true that no man can have power over a demon that God allows to posess with this purpose?

Thank you for your help in this matter,

-Davide

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Davide:

You already know this, but I am going to chew you out anyway for the sake of our readers.

DO NOT EVER DO THIS AGAIN. Foolish is an understatement to the extreme.

I cannot say this enough to our readers that this is serious business and a dangerous business to try to exorcise a demon. To try this when one is not trained to do it is like trying to do brain surgery on a person when you barely know First Aid.

If one should come across a person they think may have a demonic problem, pray for them, but under no circumstances try to intervene or exorcise the demon.

DO NOT talk to the demon, DO NOT COMMAND the demon.

In the Old Testament story of God allowing the demon Asmodeus to kill these seven men there is no indication that the demon possessed them; rather they killed the men. God simply allowed the demon to serve His will and His judgment of these men who desired to defile the sanctify of marriage. This story is not about purifying, it is about PROTECTING purity.

If your friend is truly possessed by a demon, Asmodeus or any other demon, it is not likely God would have allowed it to purify him. How does one purify by engulfing a person in filth?

The Holy Spirit purifies, not a demon.

Can God teach this person as a result of the possession? Certainly. God tells us that all things work together for good to those who love God. Thus, the bad thing, the lemon -- possession -- can be made into sweet lemonade if the man will allow God to make something good from it. Even in evil, God may be ultimately glorified.

If your friend is possessed there is some other reason for it. He needs to come forward and ask for help. He must want to be delivered for him to be delivered.

As for God allowing the possession, this is a trick the demon played on you. God does permit possession. It is part of what is called God's Permissive Will. All things come under God's Permissive Will.

God's Particular Will, however, relates to God specifically giving permission in a direct way.

Is it possible that God may specifically tell a demon, "You may possess this person" for some reason. I do not think so. God does not perpetrate evil upon people. He may allow evil to happen, but He does not perpetrate it. For example with the story of Job, Satan was not allowed to possess, only allowed to harass and harm (but not kill) Job, and this was only for a specific reason.

Does God allow the possession? Yes, the demon told the truth there. Does that mean that we have no power to exorcise the possessed person? No, the demon lied. The demon was giving you a half-truth.

This is just one example as to why a non-trained person should not do these things; it is too easy to fall for such tricks.

Therefore, is it possible for him to be free? Yes. Remember, demons are expert liars. You cannot trust anything they say.

God has given the Church the faculty of exorcism and when the Church performs a solemn exorcism, it is in the name of and under the authority of the Church given to her by God Himself. It is God speaking, when the Church speaks to a demon in a solemn exorcism to leave a person.

Bottomline: I do not believe your friend was possessed in order to purify him. God does not perpetrate evil. God, however, may have allowed your friend to suffer in this way due to the natural consequences of the man's actions so that we will come to his senses. But for God to say to demon, "Go possess him", no, I do not think God works that way.

Pray that your friend will seek help from the Church or a professional deliverance counselor.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.