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psychosis or spiritual problem	lisa	Thursday, January 23, 2014
Question: My apologies for writing again with another problem. I am counting on your discernment and will trust what you tell me because I trust in the Lord. This question has to do with my 19 yr old daughter who was hospitalized last September due to a psychotic break. She is a quiet girl who graduated with honors, and mostly stayed home studying throughout her school years. She decided she needed to become more prayerful. She prayed nightly with me and went to daily mass for about two months prior to her breakdown. She was hospitalized because she tried to kill herself because voices told her that she needed to sacrifice herself to save souls (she didn't tell me this delusion until after she got better, because the voices told her to keep it a secret). I found out that she did not hear voices the whole time she had decided to become prayerful, but they only occurred for two weeks before her breakdown. She had gotten so thin because the voices (I know now) said that ever mouthful of food would kill 30 thousand souls. Her first semester of college was ruined. She could be seen praying on her knees at school because the voices told her that if she didn't, more people would go to hell. She is now presently taking her second medication. It is working to a certain degree that she is able to "reason" with the voices, but she still feels guilty. She says she ignores the voices, but her gut feeling is that she is letting God down. She will not receive communion, because she is afraid of the "experience of grace" in her soul which she says moves her spirit out of her body, and she sees herself moving and communicating with God through involuntary movements. She is afraid to pray because she says any perception of grace in her soul scares her, and the voices become more audible and less like whispers in her ears. Prayer is a painful experience, and she prays the rosary anyway, because she says she can ignore the voices when she is with me praying. She laments she will never have a "normal" spiritual or religious life, and is tempted to get away from religion and prayer altogether. She told me that it was okay for me to write you and request your help and prayers from afar. I know I could have written this elsewhere to request prayer, but I really need feedback, because i have no help with this. I am lost. Can these voices be evil,or not? Could evil be causing her to fear God and communion, or not? I would rather it be a matter of medication, because I can manipulate that, but feel helpless to a spiritual problem without help from you---another person who can talk to me and reassure me this can be "prayed away". She WANTS help from you if necessary, but doesn't want to have to pray any "special prayers" other than the rosary she prays with me. She is AFRAID to get sick and ruin her semester again, and it took so much work to reinstate her scholarships and grants.
Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OMSM(r), CCL, LTh, DD, LNDC Dear Lisa: I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. From what you are describing the situation with your daughter is serious, whether it be from psychiatric issues or from demonological issues or a combination of both. Of course, there is no way I can adequately assess the situation in a forum like this. We really need to talk on the phone. What you describe can certainly be a psychotic break with religious delusions. It also sounds very possible that this can be a demonic attack. But, it can be a combination of both. Most often the demons like to hitchhike on problems that already exist. Thus, it is possible that demons saw your daughter begin to have a psychiatric problem and they decided to exploit that problem and make it worse than it had to be. Or demons saw the growing devotion of you daughter and have attacked to prevent that. I cannot know where the lines are drawn on this. Her fear of prayer and never having a normal religious life, along with the temptation to abandon religion and prayer altogether, is certainly a possible symptom or clue of a demonological source. I praise God that she wants help. That is the first step. But, that help must come in the form of prayer. If she is not able to pray then it will be difficult for her to participate in a deliverance process. A more direct approach may be needed. Without knowing details, and without talking to her, it would be difficult for me to advise you on what may ultimately be necessary. It is possible that you may need to contact an exorcist, I don't know at this point. You can see if she can follow the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance linked below. Also, the Spiritual Warfare Catalog, also linked below, has many prayers that she can pray and also that you can pray on her behalf. The Catalog includes a powerful deliverance prayer by Father Machado that is in a sound file that she can listen to. Listening to Father pray this prayer has the same effect as if Father was actually in the room with her. If medications do not calm the symptoms that can be a clue of a spiritual problem. But, as I mentioned, deliverance requires her ability to cooperate and to participate. If her psychiatric illness, or the strength of the demons, prevent her from cooperating it will be very difficult. Given the circumstances that you outline, I think my advice is for you to make an appointment to talk with me on the phone. You can make an appointment by going to the following page. Our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Team will be notified and will be praying for your daughter and for you. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary P.S. I advise that your daughter and you listen to this song from Lynn Cooper, "Ten Thousand Angels." Lynn lives just down the road from me in another town. This song is truly annointed. You can ask God to not only have your and her guardian angels to come to comfort and protect your daughter, but ask that Ten Thousand Angels come to her aid. Ten Thousand Angels For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Thursday, January 23, 2014

Question:

My apologies for writing again with another problem. I am counting on your discernment and will trust what you tell me because I trust in the Lord.

This question has to do with my 19 yr old daughter who was hospitalized last September due to a psychotic break. She is a quiet girl who graduated with honors, and mostly stayed home studying throughout her school years.

She decided she needed to become more prayerful. She prayed nightly with me and went to daily mass for about two months prior to her breakdown. She was hospitalized because she tried to kill herself because voices told her that she needed to sacrifice herself to save souls (she didn't tell me this delusion until after she got better, because the voices told her to keep it a secret). I found out that she did not hear voices the whole time she had decided to become prayerful, but they only occurred for two weeks before her breakdown. She had gotten so thin because the voices (I know now) said that ever mouthful of food would kill 30 thousand souls.

Her first semester of college was ruined. She could be seen praying on her knees at school because the voices told her that if she didn't, more people would go to hell.

She is now presently taking her second medication. It is working to a certain degree that she is able to "reason" with the voices, but she still feels guilty. She says she ignores the voices, but her gut feeling is that she is letting God down. She will not receive communion, because she is afraid of the "experience of grace" in her soul which she says moves her spirit out of her body, and she sees herself moving and communicating with God through involuntary movements. She is afraid to pray because she says any perception of grace in her soul scares her, and the voices become more audible and less like whispers in her ears. Prayer is a painful experience, and she prays the rosary anyway, because she says she can ignore the voices when she is with me praying.

She laments she will never have a "normal" spiritual or religious life, and is tempted to get away from religion and prayer altogether. She told me that it was okay for me to write you and request your help and prayers from afar. I know I could have written this elsewhere to request prayer, but I really need feedback, because i have no help with this. I am lost.

Can these voices be evil,or not? Could evil be causing her to fear God and communion, or not? I would rather it be a matter of medication, because I can manipulate that, but feel helpless to a spiritual problem without help from you---another person who can talk to me and reassure me this can be "prayed away". She WANTS help from you if necessary, but doesn't want to have to pray any "special prayers" other than the rosary she prays with me. She is AFRAID to get sick and ruin her semester again, and it took so much work to reinstate her scholarships and grants.

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OMSM(r), CCL, LTh, DD, LNDC

Dear Lisa:

I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. From what you are describing the situation with your daughter is serious, whether it be from psychiatric issues or from demonological issues or a combination of both. Of course, there is no way I can adequately assess the situation in a forum like this. We really need to talk on the phone.

What you describe can certainly be a psychotic break with religious delusions. It also sounds very possible that this can be a demonic attack. But, it can be a combination of both. Most often the demons like to hitchhike on problems that already exist. Thus, it is possible that demons saw your daughter begin to have a psychiatric problem and they decided to exploit that problem and make it worse than it had to be. Or demons saw the growing devotion of you daughter and have attacked to prevent that. I cannot know where the lines are drawn on this.

Her fear of prayer and never having a normal religious life, along with the temptation to abandon religion and prayer altogether, is certainly a possible symptom or clue of a demonological source.

I praise God that she wants help. That is the first step. But, that help must come in the form of prayer. If she is not able to pray then it will be difficult for her to participate in a deliverance process. A more direct approach may be needed. Without knowing details, and without talking to her, it would be difficult for me to advise you on what may ultimately be necessary. It is possible that you may need to contact an exorcist, I don't know at this point.

You can see if she can follow the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance linked below. Also, the Spiritual Warfare Catalog, also linked below, has many prayers that she can pray and also that you can pray on her behalf. The Catalog includes a powerful deliverance prayer by Father Machado that is in a sound file that she can listen to. Listening to Father pray this prayer has the same effect as if Father was actually in the room with her.

If medications do not calm the symptoms that can be a clue of a spiritual problem. But, as I mentioned, deliverance requires her ability to cooperate and to participate. If her psychiatric illness, or the strength of the demons, prevent her from cooperating it will be very difficult.

Given the circumstances that you outline, I think my advice is for you to make an appointment to talk with me on the phone. You can make an appointment by going to the following page.

Our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Team will be notified and will be praying for your daughter and for you.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

P.S. I advise that your daughter and you listen to this song from Lynn Cooper, "Ten Thousand Angels." Lynn lives just down the road from me in another town. This song is truly annointed. You can ask God to not only have your and her guardian angels to come to comfort and protect your daughter, but ask that Ten Thousand Angels come to her aid.

Ten Thousand Angels

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.