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Question: Dear Brother firstly thanks for all help in the past. There seems to be a huge surge of charasmatic Catholics in my church including the priest.I went to see a charasmatic healer many years ago when i first came into the faith and i was prayed with. To be honest i did not think he was so Holy.In fact looking back i must have been desperate to go in first place. I am not sure weather its me, but the last while people i thought who where practicing devoted Catholics dont seem to be anymore, but are more like babtists or a have a protestant way about them that i just can not take too and in the name of Catholics.The group have been to other denominations over the years for teachings and it seems to have had an effect on them for the worst.My fear is ,this seems to have infilterated the Church. I am finding myself avoiding the church and will travel miles to another church.In fact the whole charasmatic ways nausiate me and i have felt a huge uneasyness in the past including the baptism in the Holy Spirit.Or known as life in the spirit seminar.that did nothing for me with exception of an anxiety.I actualy did the life in the spirit seminar twice over the years.Wondering what was the big deal.Its only lately that i have started to see all this.Could you please help as i wonder am i taken it all to seriously at times. Thanks
Question Answered by Dear Berniece: It is possible for the Catholic Charismatic Renewal to be a great asset to the Church and to the Faithful, but the Renewal needs to be Catholic and not Pentecostal. Unfortunately, much of the Renewal borrows ideas from the Pentecostals, who are wrong about the Charismatic experience nearly to a 100%. We have an extensive and detailed essay about the Charism Gifts of the Spirit, and the Pros and Cons of the Renewal. This essay includes an extension list of "Pentecostalism" that contaminate the Renewal. This essay, by the way, got me kicked out of a Life in the Spirit seminar in Watertown, South Dakota. The "leader" was rather rude and insulting about it. Where the Holy Spirit was in that, I do not know. Because of the nature of the Renewal ego and even snobbery is common among many, though not all, of its members. I believe, rather I know that the Renewal can actually damage people more than help them, unless the warnings detailed in our essay are heeded. I know this because I have seen the damage with my own eyes. I saw this damage to a man in Watertown. I have had to pick up the pieces of more than one client who was damaged by a Charismatic priest doing deliverance. People in the Renewal seem to think they know something about spiritual warfare and deliverance. They know next to nothing about it by merely being in the Renewal, and damage people, and themselves as a result. Much of the problem is not necessarily the Renewal as a whole, but with individual leaders. Nevertheless, I have met no Protestant Charismatic and only a handful of Catholic Charismatics who seem to have their head on straight about the Charismatic experience. One of the biggest problems, and one in which Pope Benedict warned about, is discerning the world through subjective emotion. Charismatics tend to lead with their emotion and subjective "feelings". This is profoundly dangerous and the engine behind many a heresy, heterodoxy, and other mis-adventures among the people who do this. The Church officially states that emotion and feelings are a great gift from God, but emotions must always be under the guidance of reason. Charismatics are famous for violating that teaching, and so are Marian Apparition groupies. The Renewal can be an asset to those who need a kick in the rear to do that they should have always done since their Confirmation. The only "Baptism in the Spirit" is in the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation. Once kicked into gear, that is, once one's gift is fanned into flame, as St. Paul put it (2 Tim 1:6), then it is time to move on into spiritual adulthood, where the subjective and the emotional gives way to reasoned, matured, and more stable faith. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Dear Brother firstly thanks for all help in the past. There seems to be a huge surge of charasmatic Catholics in my church including the priest.I went to see a charasmatic healer many years ago when i first came into the faith and i was prayed with. To be honest i did not think he was so Holy.In fact looking back i must have been desperate to go in first place. I am not sure weather its me, but the last while people i thought who where practicing devoted Catholics dont seem to be anymore, but are more like babtists or a have a protestant way about them that i just can not take too and in the name of Catholics.The group have been to other denominations over the years for teachings and it seems to have had an effect on them for the worst.My fear is ,this seems to have infilterated the Church. I am finding myself avoiding the church and will travel miles to another church.In fact the whole charasmatic ways nausiate me and i have felt a huge uneasyness in the past including the baptism in the Holy Spirit.Or known as life in the spirit seminar.that did nothing for me with exception of an anxiety.I actualy did the life in the spirit seminar twice over the years.Wondering what was the big deal.Its only lately that i have started to see all this.Could you please help as i wonder am i taken it all to seriously at times. Thanks

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Dear Berniece:

It is possible for the Catholic Charismatic Renewal to be a great asset to the Church and to the Faithful, but the Renewal needs to be Catholic and not Pentecostal. Unfortunately, much of the Renewal borrows ideas from the Pentecostals, who are wrong about the Charismatic experience nearly to a 100%.

We have an extensive and detailed essay about the Charism Gifts of the Spirit, and the Pros and Cons of the Renewal. This essay includes an extension list of "Pentecostalism" that contaminate the Renewal.

This essay, by the way, got me kicked out of a Life in the Spirit seminar in Watertown, South Dakota. The "leader" was rather rude and insulting about it. Where the Holy Spirit was in that, I do not know. Because of the nature of the Renewal ego and even snobbery is common among many, though not all, of its members.

I believe, rather I know that the Renewal can actually damage people more than help them, unless the warnings detailed in our essay are heeded. I know this because I have seen the damage with my own eyes. I saw this damage to a man in Watertown. I have had to pick up the pieces of more than one client who was damaged by a Charismatic priest doing deliverance. People in the Renewal seem to think they know something about spiritual warfare and deliverance. They know next to nothing about it by merely being in the Renewal, and damage people, and themselves as a result.

Much of the problem is not necessarily the Renewal as a whole, but with individual leaders. Nevertheless, I have met no Protestant Charismatic and only a handful of Catholic Charismatics who seem to have their head on straight about the Charismatic experience.

One of the biggest problems, and one in which Pope Benedict warned about, is discerning the world through subjective emotion. Charismatics tend to lead with their emotion and subjective "feelings". This is profoundly dangerous and the engine behind many a heresy, heterodoxy, and other mis-adventures among the people who do this.

The Church officially states that emotion and feelings are a great gift from God, but emotions must always be under the guidance of reason. Charismatics are famous for violating that teaching, and so are Marian Apparition groupies.

The Renewal can be an asset to those who need a kick in the rear to do that they should have always done since their Confirmation. The only "Baptism in the Spirit" is in the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation. Once kicked into gear, that is, once one's gift is fanned into flame, as St. Paul put it (2 Tim 1:6), then it is time to move on into spiritual adulthood, where the subjective and the emotional gives way to reasoned, matured, and more stable faith.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.