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Someone else's Demon	Zia	Monday, July 30, 2012
Question: My mother stood in proxy for my husband approximately 20 years ago. My husband struggles with alcohol/drug addiction. At the healing mass 20 years ago, my mother was slain in the spirit and while laying there began speaking in a gravel type voice. In this voice she said, "leave Jose(my husband) alone he is mine, Im taking him to hell with me". She was fighting off a few men at the time she was very strong.. So it sounds like there was a manifestation. My mother works for the healing priest, it was his mass. She also has a spiritual director. She is devout catholic has been to Medjugorje many times has a devotion to the rosary and goes to daily mass. But she believes a demon transferred from my husband to her and since gets beat up by the devil at night. She wont pray for my husband anymore because she thinks she will get possessed. What is the difference between your proxy prayers and her standing in proxy? Is this possible to happen? Is it biblical to stand in proxy and be a surrogate for someone and have a demon transfer to you ? And then not be able to get rid of it? Could any of this be coming from her? I know that St. Faustina and Padre pio had encounters with the evil one, but my mother is no Saint...What's going on here. I dont know if she has prayed any hedge prayers or seal prayers..Its starting to sound ridiculous. Because when my husband finds sobriety, I have faith he will...Will this stop happening to her? Because this could be a constant thorn in my husbands side... Any information would be helpful...Thanks
Question Answered by Dear Zia: I am sorry to hear about all these troubles, but your story illustrates how people should not attempt deliverance of another person unless they have been called to do so and have been trained. The results can be disastrous when unqualified people do these things. A person is never, never, and I mean never, "stand in" (be a surrogate) for a demonized person. One sees this on TV, but it is never to be done. One can pray for another person, but never should one be a surrogate for another. This was a very stupid and dangerous mistake. The difference between "standing in proxy" (being a surrogate) for a demonized person, and praying Proxy Prayer, is that when is a surrogate for another, the surrogate is asking demons to leave the afflicted person and enter the surrogate, to perhaps then cast them out of the surrogate. If this was the intention of the Priest, that is, the priest's idea, he should be horsewhipped with thirty lashes. The results of this procedure is that the surrogate becomes demonized, and the original person afflicted remains demonized. The demons will take both of them. To pray a Proxy Prayer is to pray a prayer on behalf of the afflicted person that he should pray for himself, but can't or won't. In no way does a person praying a proxy prayer become the surrogate of the demonized person. Take a look at our Proxy prayers. It is a clear difference between the pray-er and the afflicted person. The pray-er is asking for deliverance of the afflicted person "on behalf of the afflicted person," but never asks or becomes a surrogate. Because your mother in essence asked the demons to come into her, the process of getting rid of these demons can be very difficult. Your mother needs to use the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance, linked below, and pray appropriate prayers from the Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog, linked below. If following the seven step and using the spiritual warfare prayers does not bring her relief, then she may need to contact us for formal deliverance. And, please, tell her to never do this again — ever. And for those reading this, do not do this, do not try to do a deliverance without knowing what you are doing. An untrained person attempting to deliver another from demons is like a person who barely knows first aid trying to be a doctor. Do not play doctor! We will be praying for your mother, and for your husband and yourself. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Zia

Monday, July 30, 2012

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My mother stood in proxy for my husband approximately 20 years ago. My husband struggles with alcohol/drug addiction. At the healing mass 20 years ago, my mother was slain in the spirit and while laying there began speaking in a gravel type voice. In this voice she said, "leave Jose(my husband) alone he is mine, Im taking him to hell with me". She was fighting off a few men at the time she was very strong.. So it sounds like there was a manifestation.

My mother works for the healing priest, it was his mass. She also has a spiritual director.

She is devout catholic has been to Medjugorje many times has a devotion to the rosary and goes to daily mass. But she believes a demon transferred from my husband to her and since gets beat up by the devil at night. She wont pray for my husband anymore because she thinks she will get possessed.

What is the difference between your proxy prayers and her standing in proxy? Is this possible to happen? Is it biblical to stand in proxy and be a surrogate for someone and have a demon transfer to you ? And then not be able to get rid of it? Could any of this be coming from her?

I know that St. Faustina and Padre pio had encounters with the evil one, but my mother is no Saint...What's going on here. I dont know if she has prayed any hedge prayers or seal prayers..Its starting to sound ridiculous. Because when my husband finds sobriety, I have faith he will...Will this stop happening to her? Because this could be a constant thorn in my husbands side... Any information would be helpful...Thanks

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Dear Zia:

I am sorry to hear about all these troubles, but your story illustrates how people should not attempt deliverance of another person unless they have been called to do so and have been trained. The results can be disastrous when unqualified people do these things.

A person is never, never, and I mean never, "stand in" (be a surrogate) for a demonized person. One sees this on TV, but it is never to be done. One can pray for another person, but never should one be a surrogate for another. This was a very stupid and dangerous mistake.

The difference between "standing in proxy" (being a surrogate) for a demonized person, and praying Proxy Prayer, is that when is a surrogate for another, the surrogate is asking demons to leave the afflicted person and enter the surrogate, to perhaps then cast them out of the surrogate.

If this was the intention of the Priest, that is, the priest's idea, he should be horsewhipped with thirty lashes.

The results of this procedure is that the surrogate becomes demonized, and the original person afflicted remains demonized. The demons will take both of them.

To pray a Proxy Prayer is to pray a prayer on behalf of the afflicted person that he should pray for himself, but can't or won't. In no way does a person praying a proxy prayer become the surrogate of the demonized person. Take a look at our Proxy prayers. It is a clear difference between the pray-er and the afflicted person. The pray-er is asking for deliverance of the afflicted person "on behalf of the afflicted person," but never asks or becomes a surrogate.

Because your mother in essence asked the demons to come into her, the process of getting rid of these demons can be very difficult. Your mother needs to use the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance, linked below, and pray appropriate prayers from the Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog, linked below.

If following the seven step and using the spiritual warfare prayers does not bring her relief, then she may need to contact us for formal deliverance.

And, please, tell her to never do this again — ever.

And for those reading this, do not do this, do not try to do a deliverance without knowing what you are doing. An untrained person attempting to deliver another from demons is like a person who barely knows first aid trying to be a doctor. Do not play doctor!

We will be praying for your mother, and for your husband and yourself.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.