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Devil's use of Scripture classes	Mary	Thursday, June 10, 2010
Question: Dear Brother, Is it possible for the devil to use scripture classes to fill an otherwise normal person with hatred for a religion he knows very little about? Also could he be useing the left-wing pro-gay media in my country, to turn people against the pope's visit in September? Some months ago a work-mate of mine became a born-again christian, Baptist- Pentacostal. Since then, he has been winding me up with all sorts of anti-catholic sneers and comments, and went so far last week as to suggest that the name pope is latin for the anti-christ! This morning, some of the girls were having a go at him about being unhelpful. I made a snide comment that he was just as much a sinner as the rest of us. He actually screamed in my face, that he knew that he was a sinner but that unlike me, he confessed his sins to God and not to a man. Therefore, he knew that he was forgiven, and implied that I was a fool to go to confession to a mere man. He has in the past, suggested that I looked up Jacob Prasch on Youtube. I did so and found some very anti-catholic videos. One of them went so far as to show a video claiming that the pope was offering up a "diabolical" mass to satan. He never used to be this bad even when the abuse scandals came to light. I am concerned that he is possibly being brainwashed at these scripture classes. To be fair to this man, there have been times in work when he has helped me when others did not. I know that you are very busy, but would it be possible for you and other American religious to pray that the pope's visit will be a success? Thanking you for your patience in reading my post and answering it. B. McG
Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM Dear Mary: The devil can use anything, pervert anything, to try to spoil and to delude our thinking away from God. It sounds like this "church" your co-worker has joined is indoctrinating him thoroughly with anti-Catholic dribble. It sounds like his hatred and bigotry is well developed. In that case, there is little you can do directly. I would not engage him in debate or conversation about Catholicism. Do not under any circumstances "egg him on." Your snide remark, as you found out, only made things worse. As best you can stay away from him and avoid conversations with him. But, if he will not stop insulting your faith to your face, then ask him to stop and to be a Christian to respect your wishes. If he refuses to respect your request, if he is a co-worker, then I would file a complaint with the employer concerning his harassment of you as this is harassment. Pray for him. By the way, the word "Pope" is derived from the Greek word pappas, and the Latin papa (papa is also the word in Italian and Spanish). If your friend had any actually biblical knowledge he would know that. Specifically the word "Pope" is an English transliteration of the Latin (and Italian), Papa, meaning "father". Anytime the English word "father" is read in the Bible, that is the word, papa (Pope), whether he like is or not. Also the Bible does mention the "father" of the nation (church), the Pope, in Isaiah 22:21-22: Isa 22:21 and I will clothe him with your robe, and will bind your girdle on him, and will commit your authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah. Isa 22:22 And I will place on his shoulder the key of the house of David; he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open. These passages were the ones quoted by Jesus when, speaking in Aramaic, he changed Simon's name to Aramaic name "Kepha", meaning "rock" (Petros, in Greek; Peter in English) and made him the first Pope of the Church, saying that "you are Kepha and upon this Kepha I shall build my Church", giving him the "keys of the kingdom" (verse 22:22). The disciples, knew what Kepha meant and what Jesus was doing in changing Simon's name to "rock". They also knew the Scriptures and thus knew exactly what Jesus was doing in Matthew 16:19 - "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Jesus did not quote Scripture flippantly. It was this passage that converted me from a Baptist preacher to a Catholic. This is as clear as a bright sunny day unless one is wearing blinders (which the Protestant do). This passage clearly refers to the prime minister of the Kingdom, which is what the Isaiah passage is about -- the "father" (papa, Pope) of the kingdom. The Pope of the Catholic Church is the Prime Minister of the King. Every King has a Prime Minister. King Jesus has his Prime Minister, the Pope. The Bible says so and that settles it. No arguments otherwise are valid. Or, as we used to say, "That's the fact, jack." Anyone who denies this is intellectually dishonest, Biblically ignorant, and misinformed. Anyone, like your co-worker, who vehemently denies the Scriptural teaching here is a raving lune and bigot. Let him stew in his own prideful juices and have nothing more to do with him. (Titus 3:9-11) But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels over the law, for they are unprofitable and futile. As for a man who is factious (divisive), after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned. But, always pray for him. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Devil's use of Scripture classes

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Thursday, June 10, 2010

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Dear Brother,

Is it possible for the devil to use scripture classes to fill an otherwise normal person with hatred for a religion he knows very little about? Also could he be useing the left-wing pro-gay media in my country, to turn people against the pope's visit in September?

Some months ago a work-mate of mine became a born-again christian, Baptist- Pentacostal. Since then, he has been winding me up with all sorts of anti-catholic sneers and comments, and went so far last week as to suggest that the name pope is latin for the anti-christ!

This morning, some of the girls were having a go at him about being unhelpful. I made a snide comment that he was just as much a sinner as the rest of us. He actually screamed in my face, that he knew that he was a sinner but that unlike me, he confessed his sins to God and not to a man. Therefore, he knew that he was forgiven, and implied that I was a fool to go to confession to a mere man.

He has in the past, suggested that I looked up Jacob Prasch on Youtube. I did so and found some very anti-catholic videos. One of them went so far as to show a video claiming that the pope was offering up a "diabolical" mass to satan.

He never used to be this bad even when the abuse scandals came to light. I am concerned that he is possibly being brainwashed at these scripture classes.

To be fair to this man, there have been times in work when he has helped me when others did not.

I know that you are very busy, but would it be possible for you and other American religious to pray that the pope's visit will be a success?

Thanking you for your patience in reading
my post and answering it.

B. McG

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Mary:

The devil can use anything, pervert anything, to try to spoil and to delude our thinking away from God. It sounds like this "church" your co-worker has joined is indoctrinating him thoroughly with anti-Catholic dribble. It sounds like his hatred and bigotry is well developed.

In that case, there is little you can do directly. I would not engage him in debate or conversation about Catholicism. Do not under any circumstances "egg him on." Your snide remark, as you found out, only made things worse.

As best you can stay away from him and avoid conversations with him. But, if he will not stop insulting your faith to your face, then ask him to stop and to be a Christian to respect your wishes. If he refuses to respect your request, if he is a co-worker, then I would file a complaint with the employer concerning his harassment of you as this is harassment.

Pray for him.

By the way, the word "Pope" is derived from the Greek word pappas, and the Latin papa (papa is also the word in Italian and Spanish). If your friend had any actually biblical knowledge he would know that. Specifically the word "Pope" is an English transliteration of the Latin (and Italian), Papa, meaning "father".

Anytime the English word "father" is read in the Bible, that is the word, papa (Pope), whether he like is or not.

Also the Bible does mention the "father" of the nation (church), the Pope, in Isaiah 22:21-22:

Isa 22:21 and I will clothe him with your robe, and will bind your girdle on him, and will commit your authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah.

Isa 22:22 And I will place on his shoulder the key of the house of David; he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.

These passages were the ones quoted by Jesus when, speaking in Aramaic, he changed Simon's name to Aramaic name "Kepha", meaning "rock" (Petros, in Greek; Peter in English) and made him the first Pope of the Church, saying that "you are Kepha and upon this Kepha I shall build my Church", giving him the "keys of the kingdom" (verse 22:22). The disciples, knew what Kepha meant and what Jesus was doing in changing Simon's name to "rock". They also knew the Scriptures and thus knew exactly what Jesus was doing in Matthew 16:19 - "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Jesus did not quote Scripture flippantly. It was this passage that converted me from a Baptist preacher to a Catholic. This is as clear as a bright sunny day unless one is wearing blinders (which the Protestant do).

This passage clearly refers to the prime minister of the Kingdom, which is what the Isaiah passage is about -- the "father" (papa, Pope) of the kingdom. The Pope of the Catholic Church is the Prime Minister of the King. Every King has a Prime Minister. King Jesus has his Prime Minister, the Pope. The Bible says so and that settles it. No arguments otherwise are valid. Or, as we used to say, "That's the fact, jack."

Anyone who denies this is intellectually dishonest, Biblically ignorant, and misinformed. Anyone, like your co-worker, who vehemently denies the Scriptural teaching here is a raving lune and bigot. Let him stew in his own prideful juices and have nothing more to do with him.

(Titus 3:9-11) But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels over the law, for they are unprofitable and futile. As for a man who is factious (divisive), after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned.

But, always pray for him.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.