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Ned Dougherty	Michelle	Saturday, March 13, 2010
Question: http://www.missionofangels.org/2_messages_09.php Have you ever heard of this guy and his book? Our parish preist had him come and talk to us last year during holy week and he spoke about conspiracy theories in our government mainly and mentioned locutions and apparitions he has from Jesus, Mary and St Micheal. Hearing his belief that we were all created beings before hand and was sent down to be born, threw a serious red flag up for me and also, his messages from Christ that he alleges he received in our home town, made me raise an eye brow becuase Jesus referred to himself in the third person. "I come to you as Jesus..." Well who else is he going to come to us as? I don't think this guy is legit... I'm sad that our preist, who is a good preist otherwise, is falling for this type of stuff... Can you please give me your thoughts?
Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM Dear Michelle: In my opinion so-called visionaries who develop extensive global ministries and go around in numerous speaking engagements, are by definition as I understand it, not genuine. Such lavish ministries and public appearances are are not what we see in the genuine seers of the past. The seers who have been approved have always, to my knowledge anyway, been very humble and have secluded themselves into religious life. These modern "seers" seem to be rock stars with flash and celebrity and even groupies. In any event, if you are reporting this person correctly in saying that he believes that "we were all created beings before hand and was sent down to be born" then we need not do any further analysis as this is a false doctrine. It is called Pre-existentialism (the "pre-existence of the soul"). This notion was taught by Plato, and a few early Christians, especially Origen and some of his disciples. This false notion asserts that souls exist from all eternity until they are connected to a body and born into this world. This implantation into a body is considered an exile for the souls as a punishment for their moral defect. This perverted doctrine was rejected by the Synod of Constantinople (543) against the Origenists, and by a Synod at Braga (561) against the Priscillianist. The doctrine of the Church states: *"Every individual soul was immediately created out of nothing by God"* (Ott, II, 15.4; D 1185) This doctrine is Sent. certa, which means it is definitive doctrine, level 2 teaching. Anyone denying this doctrine is barred from the Sacraments as they are not in communion with the Church. Today, this notion made popular by the new age occultists and spiritualists. If this man is teaching this false doctrine, then he is not in communion with the Church and should never be allowed to come to any parish to spread his errors and what is most likely his false visions. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Ned Dougherty

Michelle

Saturday, March 13, 2010

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http://www.missionofangels.org/2_messages_09.php

Have you ever heard of this guy and his book?

Our parish preist had him come and talk to us last year during holy week and he spoke about conspiracy theories in our government mainly and mentioned locutions and apparitions he has from Jesus, Mary and St Micheal.

Hearing his belief that we were all created beings before hand and was sent down to be born, threw a serious red flag up for me and also, his messages from Christ that he alleges he received in our home town, made me raise an eye brow becuase Jesus referred to himself in the third person. "I come to you as Jesus..." Well who else is he going to come to us as?

I don't think this guy is legit... I'm sad that our preist, who is a good preist otherwise, is falling for this type of stuff...

Can you please give me your thoughts?

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Michelle:

In my opinion so-called visionaries who develop extensive global ministries and go around in numerous speaking engagements, are by definition as I understand it, not genuine. Such lavish ministries and public appearances are are not what we see in the genuine seers of the past. The seers who have been approved have always, to my knowledge anyway, been very humble and have secluded themselves into religious life. These modern "seers" seem to be rock stars with flash and celebrity and even groupies.

In any event, if you are reporting this person correctly in saying that he believes that "we were all created beings before hand and was sent down to be born" then we need not do any further analysis as this is a false doctrine. It is called Pre-existentialism (the "pre-existence of the soul"). This notion was taught by Plato, and a few early Christians, especially Origen and some of his disciples.

This false notion asserts that souls exist from all eternity until they are connected to a body and born into this world. This implantation into a body is considered an exile for the souls as a punishment for their moral defect.

This perverted doctrine was rejected by the Synod of Constantinople (543) against the Origenists, and by a Synod at Braga (561) against the Priscillianist.

The doctrine of the Church states: "Every individual soul was immediately created out of nothing by God" (Ott, II, 15.4; D 1185) This doctrine is Sent. certa, which means it is definitive doctrine, level 2 teaching. Anyone denying this doctrine is barred from the Sacraments as they are not in communion with the Church.

Today, this notion made popular by the new age occultists and spiritualists.

If this man is teaching this false doctrine, then he is not in communion with the Church and should never be allowed to come to any parish to spread his errors and what is most likely his false visions.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.