Ask a Question - or - Return to the Liturgy Forum Index

Question Title Posted By Question Date
Traditional questions Mark Tuesday, August 23, 2005

Question:

This is an issue that has come up several times, I hope you will be able to share your thoughts with me. I am person that has recently started going to an Indult Mass after a lifetime of Novus Ordo, and frankly am leaning torwards the line of thought of the SSPX. Every one seems to have really negative things to say about them, but I am coming to the conclusion that they are right. There really is something wrong with the New Mass, and Ecumenism. I do not want to question the Holy Father, but I simply can not understand how it can possibly be ok to have a Church desecrated like in Assisi, or how it is possible that the Vicar of Christ would kiss the Koran-which repudiates the Trinity and our Saviour, but yet the Tridentine Mass is not accesible or we can't even have a Papal coronation anymore-we can have every single type of Mass under the sun-clowns, ethnic, women taking over priestly roles-but no Tridentine Mass....On the other hand our Lord told St. Peter the gates of hell would not prevail, so I don't know wheather I am being brainwashed or if I truly have a point in starting to have these thoughts. Thank you,
Mark

Viva el Papa!

Question Answered by Mr. Jacob Slavek

Dear Mark,

Your question seems to be "am I being brainwashed".  I can't really answer that but I can address your specific concerns.  If the Holy Father did kiss the Koran, you can be assured that it was NOT because he rejects the truth of the Trinity and Jesus Christ, and NOT because he endorses any other errors.  Any respect he would have shown would have been respect only for the truths that are contained within the book.

As for ethnic "problems" I'm afraid you must realize that Christianity is MUCH larger than the American Catholic Church.  Yes there are ethnic differences in the Liturgy and there pretty much always were once the Church began to spread.  The SPPX people really can't or shouldn't believe that the Tridentine Mass is the only rite that should be celebrated, in Latin, with all the Latin traditions and customs, worldwide.  It certainly never has been before.

For women taking over priestly roles:  the more serious of these incidents really  are abuses and are not endorsed or authorized by the Church or the Holy Father.

The Tridentine Mass:  Well the Tridentine Mass is not widely available because the rites were revised by order of the Second Vatican Council.  the Tridentine Mass no longer is the "principal" rite in which the Mass is celebrated, that is simply why it isn't widely available.  The Church saw a need for a change.  The problem seems to be that many liberal thinkers have misinterpreted the new instructions and felt they had the authority to make other changes that the church officially never authorized.  (such as the virtual abandonment of Latin) By the way, when the new Mass is celebrated properly and reverently, and in Latin, it can resemble the old Mass and is very beautiful.  In my opinion THIS Mass is what needs to be made widely available.

I understand how cheated a lot of younger Catholics feel once they discover much of the beauty of the Church that seems to have been discarded before they were born.  I am one of these Catholics.  However I really can't see how straying from the Church and the Holy Father is the answer to the problem.  It is my hope that you will be able to find an indult Tridentine Mass celebrated with permission from the bishop in a community in union with the Holy Father.

Mr. Slavek


Footer Notes: (a) A Eucharistic Minister is clergy (Ordinary Ministers of Holy Communion). Laity are Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion and should never be called Eucharistic Ministers.

(b) There is no such Mass called the Novus Ordo. The Current Mass is the Roman Missal of 2000, or the Oridinary Form of the Mass. The Tridentine Mass is the Roman Missal of 1962, or the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. Please refrain from using the term, Novus Ordo. Thanks.

(c) The titles of Acolyte and Lector belong exclusively to the Installed Offices of Acolyte and Lector, who are men (only) appointed by the Bishop. These roles performed by others are Altar Servers and Readers, respectively.