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Gift of Tongues John Tuesday, October 30, 2007

Question:

Hi Brother, God be with you.

I've read some of your previous posts on this issue and how some people's "gift" of tongues is actually NOT from God and we shouldnt use it because we might be cursing God instead of praising.

Other than finding someone who has the gift of interpretation... I got this gift during Eucharistic Adoration while i was praising God my tongue was "going crazy". I doubt the devil would give me this gift infront of Jesus in the Eucharist or that God would allow me to get it like that.

However, I still want to be sure. I believe the gift is from God, but if it's not - I would like to find out how. I use the gift for personal prayer seeing as the 'inner most being of your soul prays with you' as you pray in tongues.

God bless!

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear John:

I praise God that you desire to make sure about your experiences. That is a very positive sign.

As for where you first received your tongues, it is possible for the devil, or for your own psychology, to give you the tongues experiences no matter where you are at -- even in Adoration.

Also of note is that the idea that one needs to pray in tongues as the "inner most being of our soul prays with you as you pray in tongues" is an idea that comes from Protestant Pentecostals and their very flawed theology about the Spiritual Gifts.

One can pray from their inner most being without ever speaking in tongues. It is called contemplation which is so far superior to tongues that tongues is like a cold two-day old MacDonalds hamburger compared to the best and freshest and juiciest prime rib one can eat, and more.

The mystics show us contemplation, not tongues, as the way to prayer that is deep and penetrating into the soul and in intimacy with God.

Tongues is the LEAST of all gifts according to St. Paul. Tongues is also so easily counterfeited by the devil that anyone who speaks in tongues needs to be really sure of their origin. By the way, one of the symptoms of possession listed in the Rite of Exorcism is speaking in tongues. Witches, shamans, satanist all speak in tongues.

So how can we know the difference between that which is given by God, that which is a manifestation of psychology, and that which is given by the devil?

Well, there is no sure-fire way. Perhaps that is why St. Paul said he would rather speak in a tongue he can understand than one where he can't.

I can give you a test for tongues, but this test is not 100% sure since it can be contaminated by several things, including...

  • conscious or unconscious Resistance on the part of the tongues speaker,
  • a person who may not wish to give up the tongues or is reluctant to accept the test results and thereby is not honest with the test,
  • psychological issues with the tongues-speaker like delusion or pride, and finally,
  • the tenacity of the devil to manipulate the person (the devil can appear as an angel of light).

The principles we see in the Bible include the advise given by St. Paul to "test everything" (1 Thess 5:21): "Put everything to the test. Accept what is good".

The Apostle John picks up on this advice and applies it to spirits in 1 John 4:1-3:

1 Beloved, stop believing [or, trusting] every spirit, but be testing the spirits [to see] if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

St. John then tells us how to test the spirits:

2 By this is known the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses Jesus Christ [as] having come in [the] flesh is of God.

3 And every spirit which does not confess Jesus Christ [as] having come in the flesh is not from God...

From this we can formulate a procedure to test the spirit behind tongues.

The procedure is for the tongue-speaker to be instructed to begin speaking in tongues with an acute awareness of the "spirit" behind the tongues.

The third party then prays a prayer such as this:

In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Father, in heaven, we come to you asking for a authentication of the gift of tongues given to ___________. We ask that the spirit behind the tongues be forced to be truthful to our inquiry that the real source of these tongues be revealed. We also ask, Father, that no one here be harmed by this inquiry. Amen.

Then the third party addresses the "spirit" behind the tongues:

In the name of Jesus Christ, we now ask of the spirit behind the tongues speaking through __________ under command of God to tell the truth: Has Jesus Christ, Son of the Most High God, second Person of the Holy Trinity, come in the flesh? {pause} Are these tongues a gift from the Holy Spirit? By the Blood of Jesus Christ and by the command of the Holy Spirit you must tell the truth. {pause}. (after the answer comes, say...) Will that answer stand before the Throne of the most Holy God as truth? {pause}.

The tongue-speaker needs to be attentive to the inner voice. If there is ANY hesitation in answering either of these questions, then the "tongues" are probably not genuine.

Keep in mind, this is not foolproof. It depends upon the tongues-speakers sensitivity to the inner voice (the spirit of the tongues), their honesty, and their willingness to give up tongues should the test results be negative.

The lack of willingness to give up tongues is a MAJOR clue that the tongues are 1) either not from God; or 2) the person's spiritual maturity is very low; or 3) both.

All of us should have total willingness to give up any gift, even gifts that are genuinely from God, if God asks that of us, or if it is prudent to do so. Lack of willingness is Pride.  These "gifts" are on loan to us and thus we are to be stewards, not owners, of those gifts. All gifts are subject to the largess of God.

Some people presume their tongues are okay because they experience positive fruit. This positive "fruit", however, is NOT a guarantee that a particular experience is from God.

We misinterpret the comments of Jesus of "you shall know them by their fruits." A good fruit, as a matter of fact, can come from a bad tree. Jesus was stating an overall principle, not a scientific test.

There are many people, for example, who claim positive fruit from the Bayside Visions. Problem is that Bayside has been officially condemned by the Church as not coming from God. Point is that it is possible to have good fruit come from a bad source.

As for the advice you have been given, if your personal gift of tongues (not to be confused with the Charism Gift of Tongues that are one of the Charism Gifts of the Spirit) is genuine then there is nothing wrong with praying in tongues daily.

I personally do not understand why one needs to do that. St. Paul makes it clear that speaking in a language one knows is better because we know what we are saying (and it absolutely avoids the problem of speaking curses without knowing it).

The alleged reasons for tongues given by the Charismatic Renewal are usually borrowed from the Pentecostal Charismatics (whose theology and praxeology are inconsistent with Catholicism). Those reasons, such as the one about "praying in the spirit", as referenced in the Bible, is not exclusive to "tongues" although Charismatics seem to always interpret it that way. The one about not knowing what to pray based upon Romans 8:26 is just plain wrong and based on a misinterpretation of Romans 8:26 which specifically says that this phenomenon is "without words". That means that this verse cannot be talking about tongues since tongues, by definition, involves words.  See the long essay, Charism Gifts to Build Up the Church (pdf file), for a full-length discussion of the Charismatic Gifts. 

Now to the personal edification part. The Gift of Tongues as experienced on Pentecost was a preaching gift used to evangelize -- preach the Gospel to everyone present regardless of language. This would be a handy gift on the Mission field. The personal gift of tongues that people use in their personal prayers, however, has no relationship with this.

The Charism Gift of Tongues is a public ministry, that is, for the good of the Church, to build-up the Church in a public way. A personal gift of tongues may build-up the person and thus the person contributes to the Church, but this is a private edification with public effects, not a public ministry.

Only those tongues that qualify as a public edification of the Church and her people can be called the Charism Gift of Tongues.

Some Charismatics have suggested that most active Catholic laity are Charismatic and trace their love of the Church to the speaking of tongues. This is simply not true -- not even close to being true.

Most active and devout Catholics are NOT involved in the Charismatic Renewal and the majority of active and devout Catholics do NOT speak in tongues. There is even a significant number of people active in the Charismatic Renewal who do not speak in tongues.

Tongues are unimportant and the least of all gifts according to St. Paul. The emphasis of "tongues" is improper and unBiblical. Catholics who emphasize tongues need to stop borrowing from a Protestant Pentecostal mindset and develop a thoroughly Catholic perspective on this.

As a final note on tongues, we must remember that "tongues" is the easiest of all phenomena to be counterfeited by the devil. In fact, speaking in tongues is one of the official symptoms of demonic possession according to the Church's Rite of Exorcism. This does not mean that tongues speakers are possessed. What it means and shows is that tongues can be used by the devil very easily.

Given the fact that tongues is not necessary for spiritual growth, not necessary to "pray in the spirit", is the least of all gifts, and can be so easily counterfeited, I fail to understand why it is emphasized or sought-after at all.

I think humility will say, "Lord, I accept whatever gift you choose to give me" rather than "Lord, I want tongues".

I realize that many do not ask, but find themselves speaking in tongues spontaneously. Be careful. The tongues may or not be from God.

By the way, I use to speak in tongues myself until one day I realized that my tongues were not from God. I renounced them and have not spoken in tongues since.

If one does have a genuine gift of tongues, then praise God, but be sure of your catechesis. The Charismatic Renewal, Life in the Spirit Seminars, and the like give inaccurate information.

I was actually kicked out of a Life in the Spirit Seminar for daring to politely, and only because my small group asked me, began to point out some of these improper "Pentecostalisms" and providing Church documents and statements from Popes and Bishops to back it up (see Charism Gifts to Build Up the Church). I praised the Charismatic Renewal overall, but asserted that it needed to be Catholic through and through.

I was not only asked to leave, but was insulted with petty accusations in the process. emm, where's the Holy Spirit in that?

If you have a genuine gift, then use that gift to the glory of God.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary


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