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Lost books of the Bible Jim Saturday, August 11, 2007

Question:

There is much talk these days about lost books of the Bible. From cults to the New Age, people make all sorts of claims about how the Bible is missing books, books that help justify what they hope to believe. Sometimes people claim that the Bible was edited to take out reincarnation, or the teaching of higher planes of existence, or different gods, or ancestor worship, or "at-one-ment" with nature.
The "lost books" were never lost. They were known by the Jews in Old Testament times and the Christians of the New Testament times and were never considered scripture. They weren't lost nor were they removed. They were never in the Bible in the first place.
The additional books were not included in the Bible for several reasons. They lacked apostolic or prophetic authorship, they did not claim to be the Word of God; they contain unbiblical concepts such as prayer for the dead in 2 Macc. 12:45-46; or have some serious historical inaccuracies.
Nevertheless, the Roman Catholic church has added certain books to the canon of scripture. In 1546, largely due in response to the Reformation, the Roman Catholic church authorized several more books as scripture known as the apocrypha. The word apocrypha means hidden. It is used in a general sense to describe a list of books written by Jews between 300 and 100 B.C. More specifically, it is used of the 7 additional books accepted by the Catholic church as being inspired. The entire list of books of the apocrypha are: 1 and 2 Esdras, Tobit, Judith, the Rest of Esther, the Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach, (also titled Ecclesiasticus), Baruch, The Letter of Jeremiah, Song of the Three Young Men, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, The Additions to Daniel, The Prayer of Manasseh, and 1 and 2 Maccabees. The books accepted as inspired and included in the Catholic Bible are Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees Wisdom of Solomon Sirach (also known as Ecclesiasticus), and Baruch
The Pseudepigraphal books are "false writings." They are a collection of early Jewish and "Christian" writings composed between 200 BC and AD 200. However, they too were known and were never considered scripture.
The deuterocanonical (apocrypha) books are those books that were included in the Greek Septuagint (LXX) but not included in the Hebrew Bible. The recognized deuterocanonical books are "Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus (also called Sirach or Ben Sira), Baruch (including the Letter of Jeremiah), 1 and 2 Maccabees, and additions to the books of Esther and Daniel. The canon of the Greek Orthodox community also includes 1 Esdras, the Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151, and 3 Maccabees, with 4 Maccabees as an appendix

Shame on you for leaveing Christs Church

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Jim:

The Catholic Church never subtracted or added a single dotted "i" to the Bible.

The Bible that Jesus read was the Septuagint version of the Old Testament. This is the same version used in the Catholic Bible. If it was good enough for Jesus, I suspect it is good enough for us.

The Church for 1500 years used the Septuagint version of the Old Testament.

Then in the 16th Century a arrogant, prideful man decided he knew better than 1500 years of Christianity and decided on his own authority to rip seven books out of the Old Testament. That man was Martin Luther.

Martin Luther was not finished by ripping seven books out of the Old Testament, he also wanted to remove the Book of James, Hebrews, and Revelations.  He also added words to the Bible in his German translation.

He called the book of James an "epistle of straw". Of course St. James refuted Martin Luther's claim of justification by "faith alone". The only place in the Bible where those words come together is in the book of James where St. James says that "justification is not by faith alone" (James 2:24).

Martin Luther, in his abject arrogance, added the word "alone" to the passage in Romans 3:28 in his German translation.

Luther, in fact, was confronted at the time on why he had added the word "alone" to Romans 3:28. His response is VERY revealing. To the criticism of adding the word "alone" to Romans 3:28 Martin Luther replied:

"You tell me what a great fuss the Papists are making because the word 'alone' is not in the text of Paul. If your Papist makes such an unnecessary row about the word 'alone,' say right out to him: 'Dr. Martin Luther will have it so,' and say: 'Papist and asses are one and the same thing.' I will have it so, and I order it to be so, and my will is reason enough. I know very well that the word 'alone' is not in the Latin or the Greek text, and it was not necessary for the Papists to teach me that. It is true those letters are not in it, which letters the jackasses look at, as a cow stares at a new gate...It shall remain in my New Testament, and if all the Popish donkeys were to get mad and beside themselves, they will not get it out."

Thus sayeth the "humble" Martin Luther.

Martin Luther also hated it when anyone interpreted the Bible differently than he did. He expected everyone to accept his interpretation alone and only his interpretation. For a man who hated the papacy, it sounds to me like he has delusions of popehood.  :)

The dogma of the Catholic Church has remained the same for 2000 years. It is the only Church that can claim that.

The Catholic Church has the true and unabridged Bible. You, sir, have the Reader's Digest version. Shame on you.

Oh, by the way, to reassert this point in correcting your predictably silly history, the Septuagint was the basis of the Catholic Bible since the beginning. Those books were NOT added in response to the Protestant Revolt. That assertion is utterly stupid. The Council of Trent merely RE-AFFIRMED what had already been the case for 1500 years since the rebels were choosing to thumb their nose at God and rip portions out of the Bible. Shame on them.

Shame on you for refusing to join the only True Church in the Fullness of the Faith -- the Roman Catholic Church, the Church that JESUS personally founded.  How can you stay in a man-made so-called church?

But that is okay... assuming you go to heaven, you will be Catholic then :) since salvation is only through the Catholic Church (even if one is saved outside of the institution of the Catholic Church). Thus, only Catholics are in heaven.

Even now, if you are validly baptized, you ARE Catholic (imperfectly) whether you know it or not, and whether you like it or not. I am comforted by that thought. 

God bless, my Catholic friend,
Bro. Ignatius Mary


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