Dear Aria:

I no longer accept "questions" which are only masks for dysfunctional arguments against the Holy Mass or against Vatican II.

You are not qualified to interpret the words of the Mass as was obvious with your gross misinterpretations that you posted (and I deleted so as not to confuse good Catholics).

The Holy Mass is holy. The Roman Missal of 2000, 1970, 1962, 1570, etc. are all HOLY. To disparage any Mass is to disparage God. Shame on you.

Vatican II was a holy Council. The documents of Vatican II were appropriate and inspired by the Holy Spirit. The so-called "spirit of Vatican II" that is used by liberals as an excuse to bastardize the Council is not holy or inspired, but the Council itself was and the Council cannot be blamed for how the liberals have exploited and raped the true meaning and intent of the Council.

The post-conciliar Mass is holy and appropriate. In fact the post conciliar Mass restored more ancient Traditions and Prayers than were contained in the Tridentine Mass.

But this argument never ends.

As Catholics, we are obligated to obey Magisterial decisions. Obey or don't play.

The post-conciliar Mass was officially promulgated by the Magisterium. It is therefore good, holy, and appropriate. PERIOD.

Those who argue otherwise need to see a psychiatrist concerning the personality disorder called obsessive-compulsive disorder. People who neverendingly argue Trad vs Novus Ordo are scrupulous. This is the religious form of obsessive-compulsive personality disorder.

There is no such thing as Trad vs Novus Ordo. There is no such thing as a Novus Ordo Mass to begin with, but regardless, READ MY LIPS: the post-conciliar Mass IS TRADITION. The Tridentine Mass NEEDED some revisions and the so-called "new Mass" thus restored even more ancient tradition and prayers into the Mass than were contained in the Tridentine Mass. But, alas, let us not confuse the issue with facts. 

I pray that all those who will not quit in disparaging the post-conciliar Mass and Vatican II will find their lost faith and return to full communion in the Church. These people have lost their faith, have latched on to pride and arrogance and have set themselves up as their own Magisterium. That is sick, disordered, and rebellious. It only divides and never builds-up the Church. St. Paul told us to shun those who go against the Magisterium and who seek to divide.

God Bless and I pray for your healing,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

P.S. to all other Ultra-Traditionalist who wish to argue "Trad vs Novus Ordo" or "pre vs post Vatican II," please do not post on these Q&As. There is nothing to debate and nothing to argue and we will no longer entertain these disordered notions.

The Church has spoken on this issue, the debate is ENDED. --St. Augustine.