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Catholics VS Protestants | Omar | Monday, July 16, 2007 |
Question: Thank you Bro for your response to my question about non-Christians being saved. I've been engaged in a debate with some protestants over the last few days conceerning how "wrong" and "bad" the Catholic Church is. Anyways, to make a long story short. One of their issues is with section 841 of the Catechism, which talks about the Muslims being saved. Their claim is that the Catechism is not inspired by God, and that we have no scripture to back that section up. Can you give me any insight into this matter? |
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Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM
Dear Omar: If your friends are generally accepting the other paragraphs but are hedging on paragraph 841, then I think that paragraph 841 is getting misinterpreted. Paragraph 841 does not say that Muslims are saved. It is talking about the fact that Muslims "can" be saved in the same way that any non-Christian can be saved, when through no fault of their own they do not know to join the Catholic Church. Muslims, like Jews and Protestants, have a special closeness to the Catholic Church because we all worship the God of Abraham. But this common denominator does not remove the need for Christ and His Church (the Catholic Church) to be saved. Muslims are not saved by Islam; Jews are not saved by Judaism; Hindus not not saved by Hinduism, Buddhists are not saved by Buddhism. These people will not and cannot find salvation in those religious systems. Salvation can only be found in Christ and His Church. The normal method of salvation is by being a card-carrying member of the Catholic Church. Non-Catholic Christians and non-Christians come under the "no fault of their own" clause. But the dogma of the Church is that Salvation is through the Catholic Church alone. God, of course, can save those whom He pleases through extra-sacramental ways. That is the gist of Church teaching. Paragraph 841 is based upon Lumen Gentium, 16 which reads (I have included scriptural and other footnotes):
To simplify this document what the Magisterium is saying is that
I should mention something here. Do not be caught in the trap of "where is that in the Bible." Not everything is in the Bible, nor does everything have to be in the Bible. To assert that notion of sola scriptura is, oddly enough, unBiblical since the Bible itself says that not everything is in the Bible (John 21:25, also Paul quotes a saying of Jesus that is not in the Gospels at Acts 20:35) and that Tradition (with a capital "T") is also authoritative (1 Cor 11:2; 2 Thess 2:15) and that we are to shun people not acting according to Tradition (2 Thess 3:6). God's Revelation of Himself is found first in Sacred Oral Tradition and secondarily in Sacred Scriptures. Sacred Oral Tradition came first before there was a New Testament, before any apostle wrote any letters or Gospels. In fact, the determination of which manuscripts circulating at the time were actual Scripture and which were not were largely based on whether the manuscript was consistent with Oral Tradition of the Church. See the Catholic Answers articles Scripture and Tradition and Where's Your Authority. I hope this helps. God Bless, Footer Notes: This forum is for general questions on the faith. See specific Topic Forums below: Spiritual Warfare, demons, the occult go to our Spiritul Warfare Q&S Forum. Liturgy Questions go to our Liturgy and Liturgical Law Q&A Forum Liturgy of the Hours (Divine Office) Questions go to our Divine Office Q&A Forum Defenfing the Faith Questions go to our Defending the Faith Q&A Forum Church History Questions go to our Church History Q&A Forum
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