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johannites | John A | Sunday, May 13, 2007 |
Question: Have you heard of this group http://www.johannite.org/ and what is thier relations with Rome? |
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Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM
Dear John: The "Johnnite" Church is a gnostic group. They claim to have apostolic succession and that the Vatican has declared their orders to be valid yet illicit. I do not know; perhaps that is true. There are many groups who, unfortunately, do have valid but illicit (illegal) orders and sacraments. Gnosticism has been officially condemned as a heresy by the Catholic Church, so this so-called Johnnite "Church" is not in communion with Rome (and in my opinion not in communion with planet earth, but are space-cadets). Gnosticism is an heresy and is a foundation for the New Age nonsense of today. You can read about the origins and history of gnosticism in the Catholic Encyclopedia. Here is one brief excerpt:
As mentioned, gnosticism was condemned by the Church. Not only is it a heresy against the faith it is really an insult to the intelligence. Gnostic ideas are just downright silly. Take note of the language from this Johnnite "Church":
Here is a quote from one of their Gnostic "gospels", the Gospel of Philip:
This sounds like the dribble spouted by a student of Philosophy 101: "do we really exist? how do I know you exist, how do I know I exist, I may be a figment of my own imagination, there is no good good or evil evil, no life life, no death death. We all just dissolve like ice in the rain in to the cosmic plasma." Like gag me with a spoon :) This rot claims to be in pursuit of esoteric knowledge, but they are not. They are merely full of themselves, intellectually dishonest, and spiritually cowardly. Take heed the advice St. Paul gave to Timothy (1 Tim 4:1; 6:2b-5, 20-21):
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