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Some questions maria Friday, January 2, 2015

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Hi

New year greetings.

On new year I received an automated call from Benny Hin just praying with me and wishing prosperous year ahead. Is Benny Hinn's teaching in accordance with the catholic doctrines? Is stormie omartman teaching accepted by the church? Is it fine to read the book "battlefield of the mind" by Joyce Meyer and " the power of praying women" by stormie omartman?

Another question is relating to life after death. I believe we should pray for the people who passed away so they can reach heaven. Can we intercede to them for our own needs? Can they hear or see us?

Does God do or give us something if we don't pray? If God knows what we need will he give it to us even if we don't pray?

I have heard about the rosary for the unborn. Is it approved by the Pope? The site is http://www.rosaryoftheunborn.eu/ . Could you clarify on these? .



Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OMSM(r), CCL, LTh, DD, LNDC

Dear Maria:

As for Benny Hinn: Hinn is not Catholic and his teachings are not consistent with the Catholic. He belongs to the Word of God movement, an aberrant movement with very problematic theology. 

There are many other problematic theologies and practices with Hinn. Under no circumstance should Catholics or Protestants read his material or get involved with him.

As for Stormie Omartman: She is a Pentecostal, but you would never know that from her website. Personally, I do not trust people who keep their denominational background secret or semi-secret. In any event, her books probably have good advice in general, but since she is Pentecostal, which has some problematic theologies, one needs to be careful about her books. In general, I would not recommend her books to Catholics unless one is very knowledgeable and secure in the Catholic faith.

As for Joyce Meyer: Meyer has a Pentecostal background who preaches the "Prosperity" gospel, the "name it and claim it" gospel. This is also known as :"Positive Confession" and "health and wealth" gospel. These notions are absolutely contrary to Catholic teaching, and are contrary to the the teachings of nearly all Protestant denominations, including most Pentecostal denominations.

This form of "gospel" gives its preachers the excuse to take large salaries, buy million dollar homes, and essentially live a millionaire life-style from the donations hard-working people give to these people's ministry.

Meyer is one of these people who lives a lavish lifestyle on the backs of the many people who donate to her ministry. She who owns several million dollar homes and travels in a private jet costing upward of $36 million new and around $4-5 million used. She responds that she doesn't have to defend her spending habits because "...there's no need for us to apologize for being blessed. ...You can be a businessman here in St. Louis, and people think the more you have, the more wonderful it is...but if you’re a preacher, then all of a sudden it becomes a problem."

Well, the problem is that the gospel ministry is not a business, and the money for her to live the multi-million dollar life-style comes from donations. After Wall Watchers (a Christian nonprofit watchdog group) called on the Internal Revenue Service to investigate Meyer and her family she decided to take a salary reduction. Her salary was $900,000 and her husband's was $450,000. That is $1.3 million dollars in salary. This is outrageous for a ministry. Ministers can make a good salary, nothing wrong with that, but these people make exorbitant amounts of money, and benefit from their ministries buying million dollar planes and other material goods to which they have access, making of them a multi-million dollar lifestyle.

After an investigation by the United States Senate inquiry into the tax-exempt status of religious organizations by Senator Chuck Grassley, she agreed to greater financial transparency.

in 2009 Meyer's ministry received accreditation from the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability (ECFA). In an announcement on March 12, 2009, the ECFA said that Joyce Meyer Ministries and Oral Roberts University had met their requirements of "'responsible stewardship', which involves ministries' financial accountability, transparency, board governance and fund-raising practices."

Despite this, her lavish lifestyle is unethical in our opinion, an exploitation of her donors, and contrary to the Christian mission.

Meyer's theology also exploits people. It promises healing and wealth by just having faith to name it and claim it. If one is not healed or does not gain wealth he is left feeling like he has no faith. Ultimately, this form of false Christianity is religious abuse that harms millions.

Under no circumstances should Catholics or Protestants read her books or get involved with the Prosperity or Word of Faith theologies. Others in this aberrant movement include E. W. Kenyon, Oral Roberts, A. A. Allen, Robert Tilton, T. L. Osborn, Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, and Kenneth Hagin.

 

Concerning those is Purgatory:  Quoting from an essay by "Mike" on another website, there appears to be a difference of opinion among saintly scholars on this question. A web page on New Advent, Purgatory: Invocation of souls, states that:

  • the Church has made no decision on this question and
  • St. Thomas (II-II:83:11) denies that the souls in Purgatory pray for the living and states they are not in a position to pray for us rather we must make intercession for them but
  • Despite the authority of St. Thomas, many renowned theologians hold that the souls in Purgatory really pray for us, and that we may invoke their aid. These include St. Robert Bellarmine and St. Alphonsus Liguori, also Doctors of the Church.

Bellarmine says the reason alleged by St. Thomas is not at all convincing, and holds that in virtue of their greater love of God and their union with Him, their prayers may have great intercessory power, for they are really superior to us in love of God, and in intimacy of union with Him. (De Purgatorio, lib. II, xv,)

In a 1923 book by Right Rev. PW Keppler D.D. called The Poor Souls in Purgatory, A Homiletic Treatise wrote: 

Chapter XII: The Poor Souls And We

Life in Purgatory, to our mind, must be a time continual prayer, uninterrupted even by pain and grief. It is a life of love, of spiritual, though not yet beatific, union with God. We can scarcely assume that the love which those Holy Souls have for God is weaker than ours, or that they are condemned to silence and inertia. God certainly did not deprive them of the language of prayer, or of the possibility of holding converse with Him, even though their prayer, as we saw, is not meritorious, no matter how strong or fervent it may be.

Can the Poor Souls pray for the living on earth, and is their prayer efficacious?
Those who answer this question in the negative quote St. Thomas in their favor.

In dealing with the objection:

"The Poor Souls are above us, like the Saints; but the former do not pray for us, so neither do the Saints" (S. Th., 2a 2ae, quo 83, a. 11)

the Angelic Doctor refutes only the deduction, not the premise. From the fact that the Poor Souls do not pray for us, he says, it can not be inferred that the saints do not pray for us either, because they [the Poor Souls] are in an altogether different state, and even though they are above us on account of their freedom from sin, they are below us on account of their penal suffering.

This argument, it is true, presupposes that the Poor Souls do not pray for us. But St. Thomas does not examine this statement here; he merely touches upon it in passing. In another passage he admits that the departed sympathize with the lot of their friends on earth, even though they have no detailed knowledge of them, just as we intercede for them although we do not know their exact condition in the beyond. (S. Tk., la, quo 89, a. 8).

Suarez and Bellarmine who closely studied this question, arrived at the conclusion that the Poor Souls can and do pray for the living. Most modern theologians agree with them. The reasons are convincing. Charity towards others can not have ceased in these souls at their entrance into Purgatory, nor can it have been condemned to complete impotence and silence. Their own penal state does not necessarily prevent from lending assistance to others. The Poor Souls enjoy divine grace and are God's friends, and hence their intercession is pleasing to Him and certain to be heard, because and in as far as they correspond with the divine plan of salvation.

Another question presents itself here: Have the Poor Souls in Purgatory that knowledge of our circumstances and necessities seems to be a necessary condition for effective help. They do not, like the Saints, participate in the vision and knowledge of God. But, on the other hand, they are disembodied spirits whom we must not imagine as being hermetically locked up or secluded.

They can, moreover, gain knowledge from the Saints, with whom they converse, from their Guardian Angels, and from new arrivals in Purgatory. That the angels have access to Purgatory may be assumed as certain. It is inconceivable that they should no longer be solicitous about their proteges, or that Purgatory should be closed against them.

"Physicians and priests are admitted even to the worst criminals."
(Gutberlet).

But why does the Church in her liturgical prayers turn to the Saints in Heaven, and not to the souls in Purgatory, for their intercession?

The Saints, who no longer need help and prayers for themselves, but are happy in God and gloriously reign with Christ, are our principal helpers and intercessors. The Poor Souls are still in need of help. Their intercession resembles the prayers which the faithful on earth offer for one another. The Church has embodied neither the mutual prayers of her children on earth nor the prayers addressed to the Poor Souls into her liturgy, but leaves them to private devotion.

It is remarkable, however, that the early Christians, as can be seen from invocations on ancient monuments, called upon the departed for their intercession.

St. Catherine of Bologna testifies:

"Whenever I am eager to obtain a certain grace, I appeal to these suffering souls to present my prayers to our common Father, and, as a rule, I feel that I owe the granting of my petition to their intercession."

The Blessed Cure of Ars used to say:

"Oh, if all of us but knew what a wonderful influence these Holy Souls have over the heart of God, and what graces we can obtain through their intercession, they would not be so utterly forgotten; we must pray much for them, so that they may pray for us. "

Confidence in the Poor Souls and the practice of invoking them in special needs is deeply rooted in the hearts of our Catholic people. We should not prevent, but promote this practice.

We should, according to a decree of a provincial council of Vienna (1858), teach the people that the Poor Souls, even while still in Purgatory, are able to help and benefit us by their intercession. The fruit of this faith and practice is a valuable and blessed exchange of mutual giving and taking between these Holy Souls and ourselves.

"We owe unspeakable gratitude to God, therefore, for allowing us to do more for our departed friends and relatives than to merely mourn over their graves. For by helping them, we obtain for ourselves a right to the special protection of God, and the angels and the saints, who rejoice whenever they can welcome a newcomer into their midst. Most of all, however, we gain friends among the Holy Souls themselves, and when they reach heaven, they will surely remember and help us."

Since the Church has not ruled on this issue we may not ask those in purgatory prayers in a formal or public way, such as in the context of a church service.

We must also remember that we cannot know who is in purgatory as to asking a specific person we may think is in purgatory. The only people we know for sure who are in heaven are those who are canonized Saints. Thus, it is more efficacious and certain to ask the Saints for intercessions.

If those in purgatory can intercede for us, then yes, they can hear our prayers as God permits. As for them seeing us, I do not know. Such things are up to God.

 

Concerning the question, Does God do or give us something if we don't pray? God, in his great mercy and love can grant any grace that he wishes, but if we do not ask we cannot expect God to have God give us something. God wants us to ask. 

St. James tells us (James 4:2b-3), "...You do not have, because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions."

We must ask, and ask properly. One way to ask improperly is to ask for things that are not beneficial to our souls and lives in Christ. For example, if I ask for a Porsche automobile, a very expensive car, that would be improper. 

Jesus said in Matthew 7:7-10 ~

Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.  Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? 

If we ask properly, God will answer our prayers. God will give us only that which will benefit us according to His will. When he does that is on His timetable, not ours. And, sometime He says no.


Concerning the Rosary for the Unborn: The rosary is not regulated by the Church because it is a personal prayer. Thus, rosaries for special subjects do not have to have the approval of a bishop or the Pope.

In this case the Rosary for the Unborn has endorsements from bishops and cardinals.

Ignore the "messages" on this site. The site does not appear to identify the visionary who is receiving the alleged message are not identified, and certainly do not have the approval of the Church.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary


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