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Living in sin but always thanking God diego Wednesday, August 14, 2013

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I was in discussion with a friend the other day and the subject of good people going to hell. I said that if a person is good, does good all the time but living in an adulterous situation (divorced and living with another man) they are putting their souls in danger. I mentioned that we cannot judge their heart but if they don't repent they may loose their soul. I also said that God MAY give them an opportunity to repent is they suddenly die, like a heart attack or an accident, but we don't know.

My friend then said that God WILL give them the opportunity to repent and quoted psalms "..give thanks to the Lord for He is good. He mercy is everlasting." So my friend said that he knows of this lady who is always thanking God for everything, God is so good, God is so merciful, is always helping people and putting them before her, always invoking the name of Jesus, etc. however, she is living with a man and to whom she is not married to. He said that God surely will not overlook the fact of the good things the lady does and the trust she puts in God will save her.

My thing is how can a person say they love God, trust God, want to serve God, but yet disobey the Commandments? Am I right in saying that I will not judge them however, they are still in danger of loosing their soul if they do not repent of their adulterous life.

Thanking you in advance for your answer.



Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OMSM(r), CCL, LTh, DD, LNDC

Dear Diego:

One cannot live in sin and love God. Jesus says, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments" (John 14:15). Thus, if someone deliberately spits in God's face by living in adultery (divorced and marrying another person without getting an annulment), or (divorced and living with another person), or, living in concubinage (living as husband and wife when not actually married), or, fornicating, or, choosing any other lifestyle of sin, then that person does not love God because Jesus says so.

Such persons also are on the road to hell. St. Paul says:

"Now the works of the flesh are plain: immorality, impurity, licentiousness,  idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (Galatians 5:19-21).

 To translate this into more modern terminology:

  • immorality = fornication/adultery
  • impurity = prostitution, incest, homosexual sex, pornography, other sexual perversions
  • licentiousness = immodesty/indecency in speech, dress, or decorum
  • idolatry = putting anything before God (see Catechism 2112-2114). This includes the New Age, occult, divination, magic, etc. (see Catechism 2115-2117)
  • sorcery = witchcraft
  • enmity = hatred/hostility
  • strife = rivalry, factious, contentious
  • jealousy = (includes malice)
  • anger = resulting from pride, ego, or other inappropriate reactions
  • selfishness = quarrelsome, contentious, quick to debate over minutia (see Titus 3:9-11)
  • dissension = causing division, disunion, sedition
  • party spirit = factions and heresies (see Titus 3:9-11)
  • envy = ill will often expressed by calumny, rash judgment, and detraction (includes murder of reputation or literally)
  • drunkenness = intoxication by any substance
  • carousing and the like = orgies, wild parties, rioting

These grave sins sever our relationship with Christ (Gal 5:4) and will prevent us from entering heaven if we do not repent before we die (Catechism 1470, 1855)

 

It is true that God gives each soul opportunities to repent. He gives us 1000s of opportunities to repent. He is giving those people who are living in sin an opportunity to repent at this moment. But, God will not force them to repent. He will not force them into His heaven. It they choose not to repent, or like total fools, presume to have time to repent at the last moment, then they have only themselves to blame when they wake up in hell.

Jesus had something to say about people who think they can until tomorrow to repent:

And he told them a parable, saying, “The land of a rich man brought forth plentifully;  and he thought to himself, ‘What shall I do, for I have nowhere to store my crops?’ And he said, ‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns, and build larger ones; and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; take your ease, eat, drink, be merry.’ But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul is required of you; and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.” (Luke 12:16-21).

You also must be ready; for the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”

Peter said, “Lord, are you telling this parable for us or for all?”  And the Lord said, “Who then is the faithful and wise steward, whom his master will set over his household, to give them their portion of food at the proper time? Blessed is that servant whom his master when he comes will find so doing. Truly, I tell you, he will set him over all his possessions. But if that servant says to himself, ‘My master is delayed in coming,’ and begins to beat the menservants and the maidservants, and to eat and drink and get drunk, the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will punish him, and put him with the unfaithful. And that servant who knew his master’s will, but did not make ready or act according to his will, shall receive a severe beating. (Luke 12:40-47)

 

Those who are invalidly married, or living any other sinful lifestyle, are "laying up stores" of their own desires. These people have already been given 1000s of opportunities to repent. Who do they think they are to presume that another opportunity will be given them in the last two seconds of life? They are fools because their souls may be required at a second's notice with no time to repent, their arrogance and presumptions not withstanding. They are fools for who but a fool will take such a risk?

 

Good works do not get us to heaven. It does not matter if this woman mentioned by your friend does 100,000 good works per day. That means nothing if she does not love God. And, she does not love God, according to Jesus, because she wantonly spits in God's face by her fornication. In fact, from a psychological point-of-view, the likely reason she "seems" so pious is to cover-up the dark and rotten soul she is cultivating by her rejecting God.

It is the grace of God through our Faith that gives us access to heaven, not works, St. Paul tells us. Faith expresses itself in good works, but faith is not faith without love. Love rejoices in righteousness (1 Corinthians 13): "love does not insist on its own way...it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right."

This woman is insisting on her own way, to live in concubinage, and thereby she is defacto rejoicing in wrong. She does not love Christ because Christ says so. All her good works are for nothing to her soul thereby. 

Again, the bible is instructive because we have the story of the people who were doing all sorts of good works in Jesus' name, yet are going to hell (Matthew 7:21-27):

 "Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.  On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.' 

  "Every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock; and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 

  And every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand;  and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it."

This woman in question has heard the words of Jesus to not fornicate, yet she ignores that teaching proving that she does not love Christ, building her house upon sand whence she may find herself slipping into hell.


 

Finally, your foolish friend suggests that God WILL give a person an opportunity two seconds before death. Well, God might as He has already given this woman 1000s of opportunities to repent, but what makes your friend so sure she will repent when given that opportunity? Sin creates structures of sin in the soul, a hardening of the heart. Thus, it is hardly a given that the woman will repent two seconds before her death. It is only a fool who would suggest that such a thing is guaranteed.

 

This attitude and notion is not only foolish and unbiblical, it is a violation of the First Commandment, the worse sin possible to commit. On that score alone for those who violate the First Commandment are in grave danger of hell-fire.

This attitude and notion presumes upon God's mercy. God is a just God; His justice is perfect as well as His mercy. His mercy is upon repentant sinners. 1 John 1:9 states: "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." The IF in that verse is critical. There is no guarantee that anyone will repent in the last two seconds of life, after living a life of debauchery, which this woman is doing. It is possible, but certainly not guaranteed.

This is tempting God, testing God. Tempting God consists in putting his goodness and almighty power to the test by word or deed (CCC 2119). "God I am going to do what I want to do, commit what sins I will, spit in your face, and dare you to save me because you are merciful and I am presuming you will save me in spite of myself." Such a person will most likely wake up in hell.

There is a covert implication in this attitude that because of God's mercy, he will not send anyone to hell. Jesus said (Matthew 7:14-15):

Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

The narrow gate is the gate of love. Those who refuse to follow Christ's teaching spit on love and do not love Christ. Therefore, the narrow gate is closed to them.

I will pray for your dangerously misguided friend, and for this woman he mentioned who is without doubt on the road to hell unless she repents before it is too late.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

(2 Cor 6:2)  For he says, "At the acceptable time I have listened to you, and helped you on the day of salvation." Behold, now is the acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation.


 





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