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Very confused Vincent Monday, March 1, 2010

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Bro. Ignatius Mary,

With all do respect, although I do understand that a refusal to vote for McCain did indeed help Obama to be elected president, my understanding, with regard to choosing the lessor of two evils remains unchanged.

Bro. Ignatius, please understand my confusion. The choosing of McCain over Obama would have benefited me personally. McCain would have meant lower taxes, less government control, the elimination of the currently proposed destructive health care bill, elimination of the proposed $500 billion to be cut from Medicare, and a large reduction in the excessive, out of control, spending by the current Obama administration.

Choosing our own personal needs over that which God has condemned, appears, at least to me, to be somewhat selfish. Should we not be willing to sacrifice a little of our comfort and financial well being rather than accept the lessor of two evils just so our lives remain the same?

Perhaps, what Pope John Paul II, has written below was not for the common laymen to digest, thus requiring council by a respected well educated religious person.

Bro. Ignatius should you feel that this subject has been over addressed, I would greatly appreciate a private response to me directly. I know how busy you are and I will wait very patiently for your response. I want to do the right thing so please help me.

Ioannes Paulus PP. II
Veritatis splendor
1993.08.06

Number 78

Consequently, as the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches, "there are certain specific kinds of behaviour that are always wrong to choose, because choosing them involves a disorder of the will, that is, a moral evil". And Saint Thomas observes that "it often happens that man acts with a good intention, but without spiritual gain, because he lacks a good will. Let us say that someone robs in order to feed the poor: in this case, even though the intention is good, the uprightness of the will is lacking. Consequently, no evil done with a good intention can be excused. 'There are those who say: And why not do evil that good may come? Their condemnation is just' (Rom 3:8)".128

Thank you and God bless you and your ministry.

Vincent.



Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Vincent:

The Church teaches that we all are required to follow our "informed" conscience. If your conscience is telling you to, using the election example, to not vote for McCain or Obama, then do not do so.

But, you must realize that is your personal conscience and decision. It would be improper to impose your conscience on to others (I am not saying you are, but I say this to put things into perspective).

Those who voted for Obama, most likely did sin. Those who voted for McCain did not.

Pope Benedict has talked about this sort of thing.  As Cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI wrote:

“A Catholic would be guilty of formal [intentional] cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate’s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favor of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.”

The pope did not define "proportionate" reasons, but this state makes it clear as in other teachings about the nature of sin, that there are levels of sins (evils) and that we sometimes must choose the lessor of two evils.

Father Roger J. Landry, in his article, How Catholics Should Vote, explains:

He [Pope Benedict] does not describe what proportionate reasons for participating in the politician’s evil would be, but whatever they were, it would have to be to prevent an evil proportionality greater than that of the destruction of innocent children in the womb.

Voting for McCain was not about what benefits you personally might receive, it was about protecting the unborn, in which Obama represent a million more times a proportionately greater threat. In addition, to vote for McCain is an additional altruistic act because it would slow down the Progressive Movement that seeks to destroy our Constitution and the American Democracy. This is not about anything selfish, this about supporting what is right for our country.

While Bush was a progressive in some things, Obama was the poster-boy of Progressivism and he admits it. Obama models Woodrow Wilson, who was one of the most anti-American presidents in history and who routinely violated the Constitution and set the stage for our current economy crisis.

There is little question in my mind that McCain was the far, far less proportional evil in that election.

You may be guided by your conscience to not vote for anyone if there is no one that fully meets Catholic moral standards (which I know of no politician that does that) and Church teaching will support you.  Others, however, may decide their conscience on this with as much conviction that voting for the lessor of the two evils is the appropriate thing to do. Depending on the specifics, Church teaching will support them too.

Pope Benedict also said:

As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, the principal focus of her interventions in the public arena is the protection and promotion of the dignity of the person, and she is thereby consciously drawing particular attention to principles which are not negotiable. Among these the following emerge clearly today: the protection of life in all its stages, from the first moment of conception until natural death; recognition and promotion of the natural structure of the family — as a union between one man and one woman based on marriage…; and the protection of the rights of parents to educate their children.

St. Paul chose the lessor of two evils. He did not lobby to stop slavery, but tried to re-define the master-slave relationship. This set the stage for the eliminate slavery a couple thousand years later.

To choose McCain over Obama, the lessor of two evils, would deprive Obama and his radical bunch of power and perhaps saved millions of more lives and brought more prosperity to our Nation to further set the stage for greater return to the vision of our founding Fathers. But, under Obama we have the stage set for the very real possibility of the fall of the United States and the Western World.

Between those two choices, Obama is certainly more proportionally evil than McCain could ever hope to be.

But, as I mentioned, each of us must follow our conscience and allow each other to have the choice of that conscience as long as it is consistent with the Church's teaching. And on this issue both your position and mine have support in Church teaching, thus we are free to choose according to our consciences.

I also recommend the pamphlet, Voters Guide for Serious Catholics published by Catholic Answers, and the Vatican's The Participation of Catholics in Political Life.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

P.S. A reminder to everyone in terms of private responses. Our policy is that we never make personal responses. There is not time enough in the day to do that. If we answered privately we could get 100s of questions that are all the same question. Thus, we either answer publicly so everyone can benefit or do not answer at all.

We do have a Discussion Group where people can discuss things in detail and in an on-going basis. It is called the Spiritual Warfare Discussion Group. Even though the primary focus is on spiritual warfare we have forums on it whereby people can discuss anything. But, this question we are discussing here actually does have a spiritual warfare element, as most things in our society today.

All are invited to join the Discussion Group.


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